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Who is in the early lead for 2016?

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Copzilla, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member


    According to a Fox poll, Hillary Clinton is the runaway favorite for Democratic nominee. Duh...

    But the Republican favorite by a small margin is Chris Christie.

    I'm going to go on the record right now and say that if Chris Christie is selected as the Republican candidate, I will vote for Hillary. Because Christie is a fat male version of Hillary. I mean, the only difference is that Hillary doesn't have a pecker, and you know, she might have one and I don't know about it. And when this country tanks under nanny-state-ism, budget busting and deficits, I'd at least not have real conservatives taking blame for it.
  2. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    An awful lot could happen before 2016. I get indigestion just thinking about voting for her. She is forever in my mind connected to Benghazi.
  3. Andy


    As a nj resident, I dont want him to run either. Hes got more work to do here first after reigning in taxes/spending, going toe to toe with the corrupt NJEA teachers union and making them blink first, and finally pulling back on the nosedive nj has been in for years with other corruptocrats and spending. My taxes hav gone down a bit, but he needs to do more and has decades of nj dema to clean up after.

    Oh yeah, I hear somewhere he's fat too.
  4. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    I'm glad you like him. Gun controller, soft on illegal immigration. Property taxes have not gone down under his watch, they've gone up, budgets have increased. He has reigned in some spending, that is true, but it had to be done. Proponent of Obamacare.

    There's a reason why George Soros contributes to his campaign, and there's a reason why he is an R elected in a blue blue blue state.

    I have little doubt that Christie would continue the status quo in Washington, just like Hillary would. Either one of them would be better than Obama, but I think we need a true conservative in the WH.
  5. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    The problem I see for the 2016 election is more polarization. I don't see any moderates waiting in the wings, and regardless of party affiliation, a far right or far left nominee will be a disaster for the country.
  6. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    I'll take Christie over Hillary -- a lifer of a Politician -- any day.
  7. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    People will vote for their tribe. It doesn't matter what they are doing. Also, people will vote for Hillary based solely because she has a vagina -- and some against her because of that as well.
  8. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    I don't want Christie redefining what conservatism is, continuously capitulating on issues to Democrats while never holding the line.

    Christie is the consumate "reach across the aisle" Republican. He is the wet dream of liberals, a Republican with half the liberal values. They can squeeze him without taking any consequence of their action.

    At this point, I'd rather see the Democrat/liberal programs go ahead full tilt and die quickly than the slow degradation that is constant socialist creep.
  9. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    He's pretty much a social Liberal and I am ok with that. The rest? He is much more conservative than the lady who wanted to socialize medicine.
  10. Andy


    Never said I liked him, but he's a helluva lot better than the draconian democratic alternatives we could have ended up with here though.
    He's exactly what this state needed, a lighter conservative attitude as opposed to a say, Romney type that would have been laughed out of the primaries by most here in this heavily left state, and ended up with yet another liberal idiot like Corslime, or McGreedy by default.

    If he does venture into the National ticket, I foresee the rhetoric and attacks increasing on him a hundred-fold and we end up with Hillary by default..

    I must owe someone some hidden sum of cash though, since the checks I've been writing for taxes every quarter since he took office are not as large as they used to be prior to that. /shrug
  11. cmhbob

    cmhbob Did...did I do that? Staff Member

    Here's a WaPo article about GOP candidates. Interesting comment about Christie in there.

    I don't think I'd vote for Christie, but I'm not sure who I like at this point. I'd agree that Christie can easily be seen as a bridging candidate, but I'm not sure the GOP is ready for that.
  12. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    Scott Walker would be my first pick. Paul Ryan after that. Ryan would stand a good chance if he were truly interested, but not otherwise.
  13. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    The most revealing things I have read about HC are the comments from the Secret Service in their book. They reveal her true character - or lack thereof.
  14. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    I didn't read that book, but I hear she didn't come out smelling like a rose. ;)
  15. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I'm going on the record that neither Clinton nor Christie will be a serious contender in 2016.
  16. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    I would not mind seeing a female run for President. If HC runs I will still be waiting.
  17. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I'd love for Hillary to run for President. IMO the Republicans would have to nominate a lame dick... like they did in 2012, to lose.

    I'd like to see Ted Cruz make a run on the Presidency. He risked his all to make his famous/infamous filibuster speech a couple of months ago. He was accused of being a Tea Party (member, supporter, whatever) and was reviled for singlehandedly shutting down the government... (Not that one Senator could do that,, but he turned heads!) He was accused of sending the entire Republican party into the pollster shit can.

    But there's just one problem with that viewpoint upon his legendary speech. It turned out that he was exactly right. Obamacare turned into a major disaster, and the true negative impact on America is yet to be known, and likely to get far worse than it is at preset, and even at present it appears to be possibly the worst act Congress has ever passed. (Please cite another worse act if you have an example, other than the prohibition then deprohibition of alcohol. Two amendments! The second cancelling the first!)

    So for 2016 I pick Ted Cruz, unless you can come up for a better Republican presidential nominee. And I propose Hillary Clinton as the Democratic party presidential candidate, because she has so much negative baggage--Bengazi to name one item--that she has to lose!!!'

    Even better if we can come up with a fleet of people like Ted Cruz, and exclude the fleet of losers like Romney and McCain.

    If we want to have a meaningful election in 2016 let's have a race between meaningful candidates for the Republican nomination, and I'll be astonished if Cruz isn't in the running, and let's hope the Democrats pick Hillary.

    America is so fucked up at present that we conservatives cannot afford to lose the 2016 election or we are setting the stage to lose our freedom and to lose everything America stands for.

    You've had your taste about what the liberals would do with America with Obama's presidency. You wanna have another bite on that same apple???
  18. Andy


    Sounds like you nailed the DNCs new campagn slogan. "We know our apple tastes like shit, but Christie is fat, and zomg TEEEE PARTEEEE!!!!"
  19. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Remind us what book was this again please?
  20. Allene

    Allene Registered User

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