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Two independent reports absolve officer in Tamir Rice shooting

Discussion in 'Society and Culture' started by Biker, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Of course, the howls of outrage have just started over how the District Attorney's office is shirking their responsibility in not immediately lynching, errr, charging the officer who shot Tamir Rice.

    Expert Reports Find Tamir Rice Shooting 'Reasonable'

    Now, were there errors made? I believe so. The dispatcher was told it may be a toy gun, but this information was not relayed to the officers who responded. So when they showed up, all they saw was this:

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    And as long as we're talking about accountability. Where are the parents in all this who allow a 10 year old child to go out to the park with a replica gun? And what are they teaching their children? From what I understand, when the police showed up, the kid went for the toy gun. Seriously?
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    Where is the orange barrel extension that shows LEO that it is not a real gun?
     
  3. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

  4. Arc

    Arc Full Member

    Was it a crime? Nope, it was not even close to being one.

    Could the officers have handled it better? I don’t know. Maybe?

    Were the officer’s truthful in their statements regarding the incident? Not exactly, as both officers testified that they repeatedly shouted at Rice to put his hands up. Investigators noted there was no evidence to support that claim and that the police cruiser had its windows rolled up as it skidded to a stop on the wet grass just a few feet from Rice.

    Should Loehmann have been employed as a police officer and was he competent to be one? Questionable.

    Rookie Officer Tim Loehmann shot Rice less than two seconds after arriving at the scene. Loehmann previously had spent six months with the suburban Independence Police

    Loehmann had resigned his position from the Independence PD four days after receiving a letter from its Deputy Chief Jim Polak who stated that he did "not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct" his " (Loehmann) deficiencies."

    Loehmann's personnel file was released and it also included a written report by Independence Police Sgt. Greg Tinnirello, who said Loehmann often cried over an on-again, off-again girlfriend, and had to stop handgun training because he was "distracted" and so upset.

    Deputy Chief Polak determined in his report that Loehmann was not mature enough to understand how serious it was to have a breakdown at the shooting range, writing, "Unfortunately in law enforcement there are times when instructions need to be followed to the letter and I am under the impression that Ptl. Loehmann, under certain circumstances, will not react in the way instructed."

    Everything from Rice having the gun and using it the way he did to the dispatcher’s serious communication error to perhaps how the officers approached or confronted Rice was a recipe for a bad ending for everyone.

    Personnel documents:

    http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1374235-independence-timothy-loehmann-response-to.html#document/p1
     
  5. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

  6. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Top notch post.
     
  7. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    Evidently the kid removed it, because it made his BB gun look like a toy.

    Fatal decision.
     

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