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Transparency? What transparency?

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Biker, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    With ACTA looking all but dead in the water (the EU voted overwhelmingly to kick ACTA to the curb), all eyes are now looking at TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership), which contains many of the provisions that ACTA (and SOPA, PIPA, etc) contained.

    And, as before, the Obama Administration is continuing its veil of secrecy. Tech Dirt reports that not only has Rep. Darrell Issa been denied access to this weeks negotiations in San Diego, but Mexico and Canada were denied access as well. And these are two countries who were asked to join the negotiations!

    Of course, this should surprise no one as the Obama Administration has been slowly eroding our rights from day one, but how ironic I should find this during my reading tonight.

    Of course, JQ Public couldn't give a fig about government transparency. How else would the current Administration get away with this crap for this long? Oh sure, Obama speaks a great line on the 6 o'clock news, and as long as the media continues to sing the Messiah's praises, who cares if everyone is getting screwed in the process?

    And you know what's really funny? All those who cried about SOPA and PIPA? They continue to kiss Obama's ass. Surreal. Absofuckinglutely surreal.
  2. Arc

    Arc Full Member

    People that are members of GA or forums similar, read newspapers, diligently watch news or watch and or listen to news commentary. The problem is the people I've just described are definitely very much the minority. IMO the majority of people couldn't give a fig about things nationally and besides not caring are also very ignorant of everything that gets printed in the news, elected to office, or is passed in the congress.For example most, yes most, people at least 21 years old could not name the current or last Vice-President of the United States. The same folks wouldn't even have a clue where Afghanistan is.

    People mostly care just about what they perceive as pleasurable and rewarding to them, especially immediately, and few of those things discussed here that could be classified by categories are within that perception by the majority of people.

    More people care about smartphones than care balancing the budget, eliminating the national debt or what is going on in Afghanistan.
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  3. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Very true, Arc. Most people are too self-absorbed to look around them. It's a dangerous situation to be in.
  4. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Unreal. This is still kicking and people need to be very concerned as to the provisions this contains.

    First off here's a little history regarding TPP:

    Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Electronic Frontier Foundation

    Yet the White House continues to outright lie on the benefits of this agreement.

    The White House Has Gone Full Doublespeak on Fast Track and the TPP | Electronic Frontier Foundation

  5. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Last week the main headline on the front page of my little (but liberal) local newspaper was "White House Sets Record for Censoring Government Files." I was shocked to see such a headline showing up in that paper, let alone at the top of the front page, so maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. We just might get better leadership elected in 2016.
  6. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

    UPDATE 5-U.S. lawmakers unveil bill that holds key to Pacific trade deal| Reuters

    In other words, they want the ability to slam this through without any oversight at all. Thankfully, there's very little support in Congress for this bill giving Obama the authority to Fast Track.
  7. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Received via email:

    Urgent: Fast Track for the TPP has passed through committee in both the House and the Senate — but right now it looks like there aren't enough votes for it to pass on the floor. Take action now to make sure it stays that way.

    Dear Fight for the Future member,

    Bad news first: Fast Track legislation to ram through the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has now passed out of committee in both the U.S. House and Senate, and it’s moving fast.

    Now the good news: just this morning, the House Majority Leader admitted that “the votes aren’t there yet” to get this anti-democratic, censorship-enabling legislation passed.1

    But both the Obama administration and corporate-backed Republican leadership are working together to spread propaganda and claim there is “nothing secret” in the TPP – while the entire text is still classified!2 Worse, they are literally bribing reps with a fancy dinner if they vote for the Fast Track bills.3

    The vote is going to be painfully close. Every second counts and every voice matters. Will you speak out today?

    Click here to take urgent action to stop the Fast Track bills now.

    This is a huge opportunity. If we can defeat Fast Track legislation in the U.S., it’s very likely that the entire TPP will fall apart. This is our chance to change history and to make it clear we won’t accept a future where decisions that affect our lives are made by governments in secret.

    Thanks for all you do,

    -Evan at Fight for the Future

    P.S. Rep Nancy Pelosi now plays a key role in whether these Fast Track bills move ahead. Will you click here to tweet at her or call her office at (202) 225-4965 to tell her to oppose Fast Track for the TPP?

    [1] Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/29/gop-trade-bill_n_7171896.html

    [2] Tech Dirt, https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150424/14443230784/president-obama-demands-critics-tell-him-whats-wrong-with-tpp-course-we-cant-do-that-because-he-wont-show-us-agreement.shtml

    [3] The Hill, http://thehill.com/policy/finance/240416-dems-who-supported-trade-deal-get-state-dinner-invites

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  8. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    The only government that could be possibly more opaque than the Omama administration would be a Hillary Clinton administration.
  9. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

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