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Scariest Security Development

Discussion in 'Bits & Bytes' started by jamming, Jan 2, 2003.

  1. jamming

    jamming Banned

    This is what scares me more than any development about new laws passed, they don't have to track you by your ID they can track you by your face, even through disguises. This bypasses every kind of protection that we have to privacy, your face is not private and they don't need lots of a video sample to track you. While people are looking at the evil of the Homeland Security Act, this rather benign technology is creeping forward silently.

    Biometrics cares not if your a good guy or bad guy, what color you are, they map your facial appearances and can eliminate 99.9999% of the people that are not you. Looking for a criminal all you have to do is have him pass by a camera running this software and if he's in there you can have cops close in make sure and if it is then have SWAT take him down if you suspect him to be armed.

    Football, Basketball, Soccer, and Baseball Stadiums will have this Camera's hidden around running facial analysis. Say you have been arrested as a British Soccer Hooligan, you will never get into a stadium if your with your mates, if you try to get in one and a time you better not try to meet up or they will have your group. Protested about Abortion or Choice, better not show up with your face exposed. This is something that no one is talking about that they are makign the most advances in. We will have it at Major International Airports in the next couple of years. You won't need the "mark of the beast" they will have your face if your into that thing.
  2. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    I am thinking this falls into one of those "let's give criminals even breaks" categories. What is done with data is the problem and should be addressed with proper safeguards and an ever watchful citizenry. I think it exciting that we may get an handle on catching terrorists and other criminals before they kill again.

    We should make it illegal with harsh penalties to track protesters and the like who are not breaking laws. If you are breaking laws at protest rallies you should be watched in the future. Why don't we make so only those arrested or suspected with good cause can be input into the system?

    This is only an improved way of tracking. Currently the law uses credit card use to track and apprehend known criminals. They then quit using them. This is another plus in fighting criminals. Want to bet it is not long before they find ways to defeat this?
  3. HaYwIrE

    HaYwIrE Banned

    Some not-so-professional Hollywood makeup would do the trick, wouldn't it?
  4. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    I don't think so. If it works anything like sci-fi has portrayed something similiar to this, then it works with your facial structure, like bone structure, width between eyes, size of eyes, height of eyebrow (brow bone, not hair) from eye, etc. You know, things that can't be easily changed, not even with surgery unless it's major reconstructive, which anyone with enough money could pull off.
  5. jamming

    jamming Banned

    Sorry, Haywire as Misu was said it won't matter it would require reconstuctive surgery.

    ShinyTop, I am not worried about legitimate uses of this technology, but consider the potential for abuse of this technology. Show-up in public in China and you are someone who protested at Tinamen Square, as long as they hae a picture they have a good chance of finding you. You don't even have to have your picture taken knowingly, pass in front of a Camera at an ATM and its hooked up, here comes the Dissident Police.
  6. Advocat

    Advocat Viral Memes a Speciality Staff Member

    There seems to be some concerns with the effectiveness of the systems as they presently exist:

    "In a public place where many things can go wrong with the scanning process, "the technology is more of a deterrent than anything else," Ivanescu said.

    But the story is different in places where people being scanned stand still for a few seconds.

    Casinos compare the faces of suspicious gamblers to databases of infamous cheats, government facilities scan faces to make sure imposters don't get into secure areas and cops use facial scans to confirm the identity of misdemeanor suspects, said Cameron Queeno, vice president of marketing for Viisage, a manufacturer of facial-recognition technology.

    It appears, however, that biometrics technology isn't making a big dent in the fight against terrorism, although it could conceivably screen passengers at airports. "
  7. jamming

    jamming Banned

    Advocat that is not the cutting edge, I have access to research articles that are working on a factor of 100x more effective than this generation of biometric scanners:

    AcSys Biometrics Corp.


    Biometric Key Systems


    IDenticard Systems Inc.


    Iridian Technologies


    Secure Computing Corp.

    Viisage Technologies


    These are the ones doing actual products and only some of the many doing next generation research. Including the big defense contractors like Raytheon and Northrop-Grumman.
  8. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Hey, it's been in use in Britain for years. :)

  9. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    ahhh, Britain, that bastion of civil rights.
  10. Techie2000

    Techie2000 The crowd would sing:

    Yeah it is scary. Anyone see minority report?

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