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Prisoner swap - The deserter

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Copzilla, Jun 1, 2014.

  1. tke711

    tke711 Oink Oink Staff Member

    Yep. Praising Allah in that moment was very strange.
  2. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Wow, that was extremely weird. And these people are from IDAHO? They must be transplants from San Francisco.
  3. MemphisMark

    MemphisMark Old School Conservative

    Sorry, it takes 2/3rds of the Senate. But I like your thought!
  4. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Wow, the more I read of this guy, the bigger a douche he becomes.
  5. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    Well you know what I meant, that if it came down to VP having to cast the tie breaker on the impeachment. :)

    I'd love it to see Biden kick Obama's ass out the door of the Offal Office. Actually it would be a good political move for Biden because it seems unlikely to me that Biden could have any other shot at 2016 without Obama's scalp hanging from his belt.
  6. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I've been watching Fox News all day. Every report on this POW gets more and more creepy.

    He looks to me like a stupid version of the 5 we traded for him. Makes me wonder if we can't trade him back except Taliban ain't so stupid as Obama to take a plugged nickel.

    From what I've seen, that we traded 5 very bad men for one deserter, a deserter who caused the deaths of 6 good men trying to rescue him... It seems to me that if this summary is true then our returned deserter deserves to be executed.

    Wow, ain't that true Obama for you! Trade 5 very bad men to get one of our bad men back, and then go on to execute our trade. What a great Obama legacy.

    I am thrilled that at my age I'm very likely to be able to read the 2025 history books and see their treatment of Obama and his administration in a retrospective of about 10 years. Gawd it makes me wish I could travel time! :D
  7. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

  8. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Ultimately, at the end of the day, we're leaving. And we had to get our guy back, despite the fact he's a douche bag.

    And these guys would have to be released anyway, sooner or later.

    They're Afghanistan's problem, once again. Maybe this time, whomever replaces Karzai will be a little less corrupt and actually do something about it.
  9. Arc

    Arc Full Member

    The Taliban in the swap came from Gitmo. They represent five problems tied to Gitmo that have been resolved.

    The media and the public should not overlook the whole issue of Gitmo in general and it's effect on how or why this swap went down the way it did.
  10. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I don't buy we had to get "our guy" back. From what I see he deserted and joined the Taliban. The trade to me looks like they traded one stupid Taliban they couldn't use for 5 Taliban warriors who can kill hundreds or thousands.

    No they don't have to be released. Try them and execute them. Or execute them and try them. You pick.

    Karzai less corrupt? Leopards don't change their spots. Perhaps they are his problems too but they are also OUR problems too. These guys loose are going to get back to killing Americans, sure as shit.
  11. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    OMFG this just gets better and better! (And I don't mean better.)

    Now the Osama.... er.... Obama administration is claiming that there was a credible threat that Bergdahl may have been killed by the Taliban if word of the trade got out.

    Bergdahl killed??? Shit, they would have done us a favor! Credible threat??? They wouldn't have harmed him as long as there was any chance they would get their elite cadre of five back.

    One thing about the Obama administration. If they can't explain away their fuckups and ignoring the Constitution right away, give them a few days and they'll find some sort of justification. They keep throwing their excuses against the wall until one of them sticks.

    Next thing they'll be telling us that Bergdahl was an undercover spy, purposefully sent in to penetrate the Taliban and get all their secrets.
  12. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    My imagination runs wild today. If only I were Obama... Okay, first thing I'd do is jump off the Offal Office balcony if the fall was enough to be fatal... But forget that.

    Let's say I'm Obama, and let's say Obama has balls. (Okay, I lost a lot of you there....) For the moment, grant me the role of television script writer:

    [camera: close up of Obama]

    Obama: Mr. Taliban, we have an answer for you regarding your proposed swap of your 5 cadres for our traitor.

    [camera: dolly back to show wide angle of 5 Taliban cadres each with a US Special Forces op next to the Taliban cadre, 1911 sticking in Taliban's ear]

    [camera: cut to head shot of Obama]

    Obama: Officers, proceed! Three! Two! One! Hut!

    [camera: cuts to wide angle, switches to slow motion]

    [scene] 5 US Special Forces operatives simultaneously shoot the fucking brains of 5 of the most worthless pieces of shit in the Universe. Due to preparation the Taliban brains scatter harmlessly to the floor in slow motion and their worthless carcasses slowly fall bonelessly to the floor.

    [camera: pauses long enough for audience to absorb the 5 worthless pieces of shit contrasted to the 5 of America's best, the men holding the 1911s]

    [camera: switches from slow mo to real time]

    [scene] Five of America's best stand back to attention, 1911s crossing chest at close attention position. Eyes staring directly at the camera, no expression on faces.

    [camera: dissolves to Obama standing at lectern with US Presidency emblem emblazoned]

    [background music: Harry Belafonte singing "Banana Boat song (Day-O)"]

    Obama: There you go Mr. Taliban. Tally me you banana. [reference to old 50's song]

    Obama: Please post your response on You-Tube. Wait a few weeks until you can show the maggots.

    [music: segue from Banana Boat to US Anthem]

    [camera: cuts to close up of the American flag waving in the wind as the US anthem plays]

    [camera: fades to black]

    Last edited: Jun 7, 2014
  13. Greg

    Greg Full Member


    I used to think it was funny, the resemblance between Obama and Osama. I used to think it was funny that Obama's middle name is Hussein...

    That was 2008. Flash forward to 2014. Now I wonder, if I were President how could I really fuck up America? I mean how could I fuck up America really good???

    I thought over this as I was writing my previous piece. As I wrote I thought. I finally came up with my answer as I surveyed my completed post.

    I would do exactly as Obama has done for the last 6 years. I'd divide the nation. I'd cripple the economy. I'd alienate America's allies and I'd encourage and embolden America's enemies. I would enact liberal social programs that cannot possibly succeed. I'd kiss the asses of America's enemies at the same time as I gave the finger to America's allies. I'd order the US Treasury to print worthless money until the presses wear out, and then I'd order them to buy new presses. I'd shit on the Constitution, telling America "I've got a phone and I've got a pen." I'd make it clear that I give a shit about any US governmental entity except the Executive, and I'd make it clear that my "signing rights" give me a clear Constitutional go-ahead to overrule the other two divisions of government, and then I'd cite the US Attorney General (who works for me and reports to me) that he gave me an official legal interpretation that I am acting within my Presidential authority.

    Then I'd contact my party hierarchy and point out to them that with my pen and my phone I can fuck your chance of reelection, so don't mess with me, and I'd point out that if you impeach me and succeed that you have just handed the opposition both the Congress and the Presidency. If Omama was a guy like me I'd chuckle over the Biden Presidency that succeeds mine if I were truly impeached.

    "Yeah, sure guys, you just have a fine time picking between Hillary and Biden in 2016." Don't bother me. I'm working on the plans for my Presidential library and how I turned America into a socialist... er... liberal paradise. Yeah, sure, look at the history books 20 years from now and see my legend and worship how I turned America into a liberal's wet dream of socialism."

    Me, back in character. I honestly believe that Obama believes in what he is doing. I believe he thinks he is doing the best thing he can do to shape America into his vision of the future.

    Just one problem. I think his liberal wet dream is destined for failure in the practical real world. I believe in 20 years that Obama will be touted as the worst American President ever, by far and several furlongs. I am sad for all the hurt going around today but I rejoice that at my age and health that I am likely to see Obama's Presidency in a 20th year retrospective.

    It will be interesting times to see how it all plays out.
  14. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

  15. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

  16. Andy


    Pretty crazy since not one of Sgt "I got lost"'s former platoon members have been interviewed regarding his possible desertion.


    Wonder how far up the food-chain this decision actually comes from.

    Anyone taking odds that this guy gets a full pardon at the end of Lame Duck's reign?
  17. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Of course. That's a sucker bet.
  18. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    They hinted on this a few weeks ago. While he was still in Germany, that he was refusing contact with his parents.

    My guess...

    His parents filled his head with all that hippy nonsense. All that "they're good people if only given kindness" blah blah blah and he gets over there, actually acts on it, and five years of torment later has figured out his mother and father are complete leftist LUNATICS and their indoctrination of him gets him twisted enough to subject himself to what he went through, and now he doesn't really even want to listen to their bullshit. I think he figures the first time he talks to his dad and his dad launches off on a steaming pile of hippy bullshit he's going to completely freak out because he now KNOWS these Taliban/AQ are some sorry worthless inhumane animals and they all need to die, and his dad will still want to send them flowers and apologies. He figures his dad is a great deal of the reason his life is pretty much ruined.

    That's my guess.
    Andy and ethics like this.
  19. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    It's the best theory out there.
  20. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I like your theory 'Zilla. If you are right I think he and his father should get together, and he should punch his father's lights out.

    I think it's a good thing for father and son to have just one physical fight. I had mine, it was a draw, but we both had a lot more respect for the other afterwards.

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