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pete townsend arrested

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by valgore, Jan 13, 2003.

  1. valgore

    valgore Veteran Member

  2. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Good Lord! Child pornography? Damn! Must prepare to burn all my CDs by The Who...

    SM
     
  3. Violet1966

    Violet1966 Stand and Deliver Staff Member

    He's a very complex individual it seems. A few years back he admitted to being bi-sexual. Now he's been accused of and admitted to paying for access to a child pornography site??? Not that the two are related in any way now mind you, but he's been doing some serious sexual exploration I would say.

    I don't get this child porn thing now. I thought it wasn't illegal to view it as long as you don't download it or something like that? I guess the fact that he paid to look at it is what made it illegal huh? Well why the hell is the site allowed to be there if it's illegal????
     
  4. Stiofan

    Stiofan Master Po

    I'd wait and see about this one. He says he didn't download anything. Let's see if they have the evidence first.
     
  5. pupowski

    pupowski Banned

    This Reeks of sexual hysteria, and political ambition, like Ashcroft's child pornography witch-hunts. I'll wait for further information before presuming Townsend is a pedophile. We had a case in my area where a professor was similarly charged. At the trial, it was revealed that there was no evidence the pictures were of minors, or that he downloaded or even knew they were on the hard drive. He was acquitted, and received a settlement but his reputation was ruined. In some cases, the images are artificially generated, not images of real children. The prosecutors need to prosecute those who take the pictures, or the websites that distribute them, not the lookie-loos. Looking at pictures of children for sexual fantasy is a fetish, and makes one a sexual deviant. Acting out the fantasy makes them a pedophile, and a danger to society. Prosecution for the former is foolish, for the latter it is essential.
     
  6. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    Pupowski, you are going to have to quit making sense in your posts. Hate to agree with you but in this case I do.
     
  7. Domh

    Domh Full Member

    Having been fan of Townshends MIND for a long time, Im waiting and seeing. I simply cant buy that a man who has written the lyrics he has written over the years is a pedophile.

    Yes, anythings possible, but I dont buy it - I find his excuse an easier buy than the accusation against him.

    Its very sad - I hope it ends well - my respect for Townshend is immense.
     
  8. RRedline

    RRedline Veteran MMember

    I agree with Domhain...I love some of the music Townshend is responsible for. I hope that this is a bunch of hysteria and it turns out that he is not a pedophile. Even if he is convicted, I don't think I could stop listening to <i>Baba O'Riley</i>.
     
  9. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    What I don't understand is his claim that he was doing research. I heard on the news that he claims to have been sexually molested as a child - so by looking at child porn on that site, he was 'researching' what had happened to him.

    huh?

    I thought porn was designed to titillate? To arouse? If he was doing research about something that was traumatizing to him, why is he looking at material designed to arouse? Unless he's trying to figure out why someone would be into little kids???

    Dude should have gone to a psychotherapist instead.
     
  10. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    CNN has an article explaining child pornography laws in the UK - apparantly this is where Pete Townsend has been arrested:

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/01/14/porn.surf/index.html

    According to the article, just clicking on a website that contains child porn is worth 5 years in jail. It all depends on how long you viewed it - if you clicked on a link and were surprised to find child porn, then quickly leave, it's 'understandable' and probably not punishable. If you linger, you're going to jail.

    <i>"Once you look at a picture of child pornography, that counts as possession which is punishable by jail," Robbins told CNN.

    "Even if you delete it, it's not easily detectable but it still remains on your hard drive and police can find it if they make a raid. If you get a spam and delete it, you're not going to chased. But if you have more than one image that's less defense."
    </i>

    If you view a website, the images are downloaded to your computer - so technically, you ARE in possession of child porn. Even if you don't understand how your browser works.

    Man, these laws are tough. You're screwed either way.
     
  11. Violet1966

    Violet1966 Stand and Deliver Staff Member

    I think him stating that it was for research was a strategic move. He was probably advised to say that by his lawyers. I'm assuming he's going to ask for leniency due to the fact that he himself was molested as a child (supposedly), therefore he is a victim himself, and was looking at the site because he is into it now because he's been victimized. Seems like the route to go. I don't believe his excuse for a second. He got caught and that's that. WTF was he thinking anyway? He must really have thought that it was ok to pay for that crap and support it and it he wouldn't have gotten into any trouble huh? He that out of touch with what the laws say and reality?

    I'm sorry to sound tough here but he's an idiot for getting himself into this mess. No sympathy for it.
     
  12. IamZed

    IamZed ...

    I only ever saw the stuff once and man did I hit the back button fast. Them I shut down IE which activates History Kill erasing the temp. File sectors 21 times. Then I told the webmaster about it. I hope it was the first and last time I see the stuff.
    As for Townsend, I too will wait and see, but when it ramped up from suspicion of viewing to suspicion of generating and distributing it looked a lot worse than it did in the morning.
     
  13. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    Supposedly he's writing a book about his life, and needed to do research on child porn because of his own experiences as a child who was molested.

    huh!?!?

    I still don't get that. How they link the two, expecting that to be perfectly logical - when there are so many child advocacy groups that will gladly give you information on what child molestation is and how peds go about it and the effects of it on children. So many REAL and CREDIBLE sources of information - why go pay a child porn website??
     
  14. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    I don't imagine Peter Townsend could go to those agencies with much expectation of privacy.
     
  15. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    Shiny, use your imagination - he sends an assistant, or whoever is helping him co-write the book.

    It wasn't a better move to purchase viewing time at a child porn site if he wanted to keep his 'research' private.
     
  16. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    Wise move, no. But a better expectation of privacy. I don't know if he is a regular viewer of child porn or not. If so, he loses some respect. But that does not make him a pedophile. Saving one pic in the UK is a crime and for that he has been charged. Add stupidity to the charges. But I am not ready to add pedophilia. Thinking and looking are not supposed to be crimes in this country. I am surprised the UK has a law against looking or thought. Is this EU influcence?
     
  17. valgore

    valgore Veteran Member

    I agree with pupowski's take on this whole thing. I have a hard time believing that Pete Townsend was involved in creating or distributing this material however I have an equally hard time believing he was doing research for a book. I would be very much interested in hearing how he thought viewing child porn would aid his research or understanding his suspision of his own abuse as a child. surely there are much better research materials out there than that. still, I hope he is not prosecuted if looking is all he was doing. I think his reputation will be ruined over this and that is a fair and fitting enough punishment.
     
  18. FrankF

    FrankF #55170-054

    In a recently released police interrogation video (sorry I lost the video link), David Westerfield claimed that he downloaded child porn to his computer and burned the photos to CDs for "research". He claimed that he only did it to see if there really was such a thing in the Internet, and to catalog what was there.

    David Westerfield was recently convicted of murdering seven year-old Danielle van Dam in February 2002 and was sentenced to death.
     
  19. Violet1966

    Violet1966 Stand and Deliver Staff Member

    Oh so this was more then a cache issue. He's so screwed. I don't believe his research story now for sure. The twisted perve. Don't make me like the Who any more or any less but man....he's so twisted. Sick man.

    edit for spelling
     
  20. jamming

    jamming Banned

    He purchased child pornography with his creditcard, from his house. No, he did not create or distribute, with what is known now. But he supported the industry that abuse and use those children to fulfill the dreams of those like him that purchase it. He is being nailed for possession, not distributing.
     

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