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Life Stinks

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Wacko, Jan 26, 2003.

  1. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Well, to be perfectly blunt about it I had a severe manic attack a few days ago, and lost control. After the manic attack subsided I started feeling the depression. It seems that my doctors didn't take into account, or just didn't want to mention the fact that quitting smoking could offset my bipolar. I called me psychiatrist just after this happened, and he raised my dossage of meds for the bipolar. During a week I slept all the time, and when awake I was really slow in the mental department (not that I'm real fast anyways). I lowered my dosages, and called my psychiatrist again. He asked me how bad I really wanted to quit smoking, and I said why? He then explained to me that we could basically start over trying different meds until we found one that worked (if we found one that worked). Well, I'm a smoker again as I'm not willing to spend the next year trying different meds while I'm all messed up again. It's just not worth it.

    I called the doctor that gave me the Wellbutrin to quit smoking, and she admitted to knowing that problems could arise. I then called my regular doctor who also told me the same thing. Both of them worked together to get me off smoking, and they both knew what could happen yet they didn't tell me. That just pisses me off, and I let them know it. Damn doctors anyways.

    So, I'm a smoker until they can come up with something different. It just really pisses me off when a doctor knows what can happen, and doesn't warn you.

    Sorry guys, but I needed to get that off my chest as I've been stewing over it for days now.

    Thanks for listening...
  2. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Can't say I am surprised. Crap like that happens daily to people and I agree, it is pathetic.

    While smoking, can you cut down by, perhaps even one ciggie a day?
  3. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Right now a pack is lasting me about a day, and a half where before I was smoking two packs a day, so I did cut down which I agree is a good thing.
  4. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Ok, then you know what? Enjoy life, man, including the smokes. You have a conflict with the meds and instead of pulling your hair out and going zonkers, fuck it, let the docs figure it out for you, or do your own research in the background.

    I don't know how old you are but you can quit, in the future. Just take care of yourself for now and enjoy everything you can about life.

    At least, that's what I would do.
  5. Misu

    Misu Hey, I saw that.

    Wow man, I'm really sorry to hear about the effects. If I were you, I'd switch doctors immediately, and let my old doctors know exactly why I'm leaving them. That's bigtime malpractice - what if you had been driving or operating heavy machinery during one of your manic episodes?? Or fell into a deep suicidal-depression state? Not cool man, not cool at all. And I would let them know that - malpractice, BIG TIME. You're not a child, you're an adult, and you need to be told EVERYTHING. Man, I would let them have it. Doctors don't normally expect people to stand up to them like that, they need a reality check.

    About the smoking, what if you quit smoking on your own, without the Wellbutrin? What would happen then? Maybe try to limit your smoking to maybe 5 cigs a day?
  6. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Well, being that I'm only 29 I should have a few good years left. Quitting may not be high on my things to do this year, but I will be talking to my psychiatrist about it on the next visit. Maybe he can think of something that will help me quit.

    Even tho I live with my mom, and brother right now I can't always talk to them about things. Thanks ethics it really helps.

    By the way life will get real good real soon for me if all goes right this week. I got my single carb kit for my motorcycle, and found my starter solenoid is bad, so replacing that. Maybe I will be able to get it running, and start riding again. That's always a good thing, lol.
  7. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Hey, that's what we are here for. Great to see you focusing on potentially good things. :)
  8. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Hi Misu

    I did some pretty good yelling, and they did some pretty good apologizing. It's really hard to find a good doctor these days, and both of these are normally really good. I'm going to let it go, and hopefully they will be allot more forth coming from now on with me.

    I did try cutting down to quit several times on my own, and it just didn't work. One thing that my shrink, and I did discuss is taking the wellbutrin over a longer period of time to give my body more time to adjust. It could still happen, but it will take time.
  9. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006


    Have you tried the alternatives? The patch and the nicotine inhaler? I have tried both and been able to quit for extended periods.

    Unfortunately the patch caused skin problems and I had to stop using it, and the inhaler irritated the hell out of my tongue after a while and I quit that. I now am smoling again and plotting my next effort. But one of these might work for you.
  10. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    I checked out the alternatives, but I would still have the same problem with my bipolar (chemical imbalance) getting imbalanced. One thought that my psychiatrist, and I discussed was putting me on Wellbutrin permantly in exchange for one of my other meds. That might work, and we could work with the dosage, so I would quit smoking, and keep the bipolar under control. Well, as close to under control as it gets in my case. It's definately something that is being looked into, but it will take time as doctors in any feild work slow, lol.

    Have you tried the Wellbutrin to quit smoking? It really worked for me to actually quit without craving a cig.
  11. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006

    Am taking wellbutrin now. Still smoking sso I should give up one or the other.
  12. Sunriser13

    Sunriser13 Knee Deep in Paradise

    Wacko, is it the lack of nicotine that is causing a chemical imbalance or is it the stress created by the withdrawl?
  13. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Ouch! So even on the wellbutrin you still have the cravings? Maybe they need to raise the dosage, lol.

    Sunriser I'm not for sure, but I'm guessing that it's the Nicotene doing it. I know my psychiatrist is asking for a new blood test to be done, and he wants to see me this coming week if I can be fit in. That's about all I really know for sure right now which aint much.
  14. jfcjrus

    jfcjrus Veteran Member

    I'm sorry to hear that your quest to give up smoking has hit a roadblock.
    It's obvious that this habit isn't good for us.

    After many decades, I, too, am trying to quit.

    I hope that your docs can work with you on this quest and find a plan that'll work.
    Good luck to you.

  15. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Thank you jfcjrus. I wish you good luck in the quest my friend. I will get their one way, or another.
  16. mikepd

    mikepd Veteran Member

    Waco, doctors sometimes hold back information from patients because they feel they may not be able to handle it for whatever reason. In your case, it was a bad decision. I'm glad you were able to straighten things out with your doctors as finding ones that understand your problems and can work together to help solve them can be hard to find.

    I know as I have my primary physician and due to my medical problems at least seven specialists, if not more, depending on how stable I am at any point in time.

    Hang in there, you will prevail. Attitude is everything. Anytime you need to recharge your emotional batteries, come here and we'll be sure to give you a boost! ;)
  17. FrankF

    FrankF #55170-054

    I was on Zoloft 200mg per day for about two years... for major stress. My doctor decided to switch it to Wellbutrin SR 150mg and patches at the same time to help me stop smoking. Didn't do doodley for me. I smoked two packs per day before, two packs per day while on the meds, and two packs per day now.
    One thing that hampers my attempts to quit smoking is that I also am a heavy drinker. Three six packs on a Saturday or Sunday is not uncommon. My doctor said that I cannot quit smoking unless I quit drinking first... I'm still working on that one.
  18. ditch

    ditch Downunder Member

    Wacko, if you have some hassles in the head they will only be harder to handle if you are trying to kick the habit at the same time. Hell, just trying to kick the habit is hard enough. Took me about 20 attempts but its wonderful to have done it. Giving up can be done in so manny ways too. What works for some doesn't for others. Some people cut back to 10 then 5 or so a day. I couldn't do that. I'd be back with a vengance after a few days. All or nothing, that's me.

    Its good to see that you can get some comfort here. I hope it helps as much as it appears to.

    Your right, life stinks but only some of the time. ;)
  19. Wacko

    Wacko Helllllooo Nurrrse

    Thanks everyone.
  20. IamZed

    IamZed ...

    Life does not stink Wacko. Get out of your house and walk down to a local playground. Look at the faces of the children as they play. Offer to help by pushing a swing. There is no greater lifting force in this life than the smile of a child.
    Your life may stink, but that is a manageable problem. Mine has at times and I had to claw my way out of holes I thought were bottomless.
    I have to admit that the problems of others seem to pull me back. I can cry for myself till the cows come home but when I see another crying I find strength somewhere.
    Depression is ill served thru isolation. Your own problems grow to unstoppable proportions.
    Get out of the house. Get out of yourself. See others and learn their hardships.
    Salvation is often achieved only thru saving someone.

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