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Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by ethics, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Two things.

    1. It's not Egypt. Qaddafi falls that country is going to be in a bigger mess than before in every way.
    2. Get ready for high oil prices. Oil hit over 100 today and there's already predictions of $5 dollars per gallon this summer.
  2. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    That's been my concern all along. Qaddafi has been quiet ever since Reagan bombed him twice, and what follows may not be democracy. That said, I want him to go down, preferably in a death match against the enraged mobs.
  3. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    Another part of the chess board, people fed up with dictators and their brutal regimes.

    And Islam.
  4. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Neither egypt nor lybia were all that islamic though.
  5. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    He's hunkering down for a fight. I wonder if the West can do anything to help the protestors - this might be a good time to make friends and influence people.
  6. Throttlejockey™

    Throttlejockey™ Well-Known Member

    Iran would be itching for the US to go in, in any form
  7. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    You're right - we don't want to play into anyone's hands. Many analysts were recommending a no-fly zone, but, now that pilots are defecting, we want a fly zone. I'd like to help the protestors, but I'm not sure how.
  8. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    US needs to stay the fuck out.
  9. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Amen, amen, amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like we need any more involvements in the Middle East than we already have.
  10. Steve

    Steve Is that it, then?

    I find two things very interesting in this situation:

    1. It seems to have come out of nowhere. Libya experts will disagree, I'm sure, but to this casual observer, this is happening for almost no reason at all.

    2. The speed with which the opposition is taking over the country and the highly visible military defections clearly show that Kaddafi has lost the support of the military.
  11. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    An Australian television news reporter was the first from foreign media to arrive, he said this morning that the people greeted his team with enormous warmth and enthusiasm, they want their situation to be broadcast to the world. No surprise.
  12. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

  13. mikepd

    mikepd Veteran Member

    Exactly. A US news reporter said he and his crew were greeted as if it were WWII and they were liberating them from the Nazis. The crowd were so grateful that news agencies were getting the word out about what was going on in Libya and how the people were declaring freedom from the 'mad dictator'.
  14. Steve

    Steve Is that it, then?

    You know what?

    There's no reason for this, other than pure, speculative greed.

    Libya's production of 1.6 million barrels per day is just under 2% of the total global oil production.

    Two. Percent.

    How much did oil futures rise yesterday?


    Pure, unbridled greed.

    If Alighieri lived today, there'd be several more circles of Hell, one of which would be devoted completely to commodities traders.
  15. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    Any regime that would gain power after our involvement would be poisoned from the start. They would have the entire Arab world saying they were US puppets. Let them wallow in their own muck. And to borrow a line from Sarah Palin, in reference to ANWR, drill baby drill.
  16. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

  17. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    And like most dictators, we discover what Mo is most frightened of...


  18. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    That's part of the weapon of mass destruction of dictators.
  19. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

  20. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    Behave like a person detached from reality, as I just viewed in interview with various foreign media people.

    Looked like Hussein's media manager. There are no US troops or tanks in Baghdad.

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