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Leniency Works

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by ethics, Jan 6, 2003.

  1. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    The New York Times is <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/02/international/europe/02FINL.html">running a story</a> on the success of the Finnish prison system in reducing the prison population (which is now the lowest in the EU per capita) through a novel approach: leniency.

    Far from being 'tough on crime', the Finns' attitude seems to be one long proposed by more liberal elements, and is in keeping with the Scandinavian propensity toward socialist principles.

    In contrast to the stance by various parties in the US to strip prisoners of even more things deemed 'luxuries' (education, libraries, TV, etc.) the relaxed atmosphere in Finnish prison actually seems to work, even with drug prohibition.

    Could something like this possibly work in the US, or is it more the logical extension if the more, for lack of a better word, humane Scandinavian culture? A socialist model in parallel with the politics of the country the issue is about?
  2. Coriolis

    Coriolis Bob's your uncle

    Amazing, is all I can say. It would never work in the US, however, at the present time. The Finnish model is taylor made for a socialist country, and the US just has too much crime being perpetrated <i>due</i> in part to of a lack of meaningful social programs. Leniency won't solve those base problems here.
  3. Coot

    Coot Passed Away January 7, 2010

    I would infer that you are talking about social programs that teach people respect for the rights and property of others. ;)

    If the statistics are correct and crime is down in Finland, then I would concur that it is their socialist society in conjunction with this system seems to work for them...well that along with the fact that crime victims are compensated by the government. Of course, the article also alludes to possible trouble on the horizon for this program also:
  4. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    I have to agree, hence my obvious question with no answer, or not an easy one. I'd rather not compare prison systems without comparing political and cultural differences.

    NYT went ahead and did just that though, and I am sure many people will go on thinking, "Hey, why can't we do this?"

    Now, perhaps someone out there could very well shame the crap out of me and provide a workable solution. I'd love to hear the other side of this, very much.

  5. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Reduced Crime Statistics Possible Only Due to Lack of Ukranian Immigrants was the headline of The Finnish Times I didn't see. :p


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