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Kilroy was here!

Discussion in 'Society and Culture' started by Allene, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    NOTE from Allene: What's below was in an email sent to my husband. I'm not sure if the photos are going to work until after I post it, so please bear with me. Also, there really is a Halifax in Massachusetts, so that's not an error.
    I’m sure most of my friends remember Kilroy and more than likely drew his picture a few times.

    He is engraved in stone in the National War Memorial in Washington, DC - back in a small alcove where very few people have seen it. For the WWII generation, this will bring back memories. For you younger folks, it's a bit of trivia that is a part of our American history.

    Anyone born in 1913 to about 1950, is familiar with Kilroy. No one knew why he was so well known- but everybody got into it, I even remember seeing him around public places in the late 60s...

    So who the heck was Kilroy?

    In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America ," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the real Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax, Massachusetts, had evidence of his identity.

    'Kilroy' was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war who worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy. His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. He would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark.

    Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.

    One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his check mark on each job he inspected, but added 'KILROY WAS HERE' in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message.

    Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks. Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With the war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced.

    His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific.


    Before war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long hauls to Berlin and Tokyo. To the troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that someone named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived.

    Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the underside of the Arc de Triomphe and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.

    As the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo!

    In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. Its' first occupant was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?"

    To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy yard in Halifax, Massachusetts.
    And the tradition continues...

  2. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Photos aren't working! SIGH!
  3. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Allene, forward the email to me and I'll fix things accordingly. :)
  4. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Will do in about five minutes, thanks.
  5. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    That is the most common explanation. There are some variances, of which Snopes has looked into and have been discussed on Wikipedia.


    There almost certainly was a connection between Mr. Chad, the band-pass filter, and the face associated with Kilroy.

    Amusingly, my department had a recent cheesy little rah rah thing where they asked employees to sign their name on a mural if they were going to get a free check for diabetes at a recent health drive. Kilroy showed up there compliments of yours truly.

    I grew up seeing Kilroy during the Viet Nam era, you see. ;)
  6. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Thanks for the additional information, Copz. Ed remembers Kilroy, but I don't. I was a bit young and in the wrong country when he first appeared, and if I ever saw anything about him in Boston during the Viet Nam period, I have long since forgotten it.
  7. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    I have passed those links on to my husband.
  8. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    All fixed. :)
  9. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Merci! :)
  10. MemphisMark

    MemphisMark Old School Conservative

    If you ever watched "Kelly's Heroes," one of the guys put a Kilroy in the bank before they left, to be discovered by Ernest Borgnine.

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