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Gazeta Wyborcza on Chechen siege toll

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by halldor, Oct 26, 2002.

  1. halldor

    halldor Registered User

    Gazeta Wyborcza 26/20/2002 issue

    By Waclaw Radziwiniwicz in Moscow

    The tragedy of hostages captured by the terrorists on the Moscow's
    theater hasn't ended yet. People who were freed when the special
    forces stormed the building in the morning are dying in hospitals
    from gas poisoning used by the storming troops.

    Vladimir Vasilyev, the vice minister of the Interior Ministry
    confirmed during the press conference that "special means and
    substances" were used.

    Officially the number of hostages who got killed as the result of
    operation is 68 persons right now. Nobody says how many people have
    died from terrorists' bullets, who according to the Russian sources
    begun executing the hostages.

    It's known that in the the City Hospital No 13, where around 350
    freed hostages have landed, at least one woman had died. That's a
    official information. But, a hospital's worker, in the converasation
    to the Gazeta said that "we have many more corpses". Doctors confirm
    that the state of health of patients in the hospital No 13 is bad.

    Even worse is with people who have landed in the Wars Veteran
    Hospital, located nearby the theatre, in which hostages were kept.
    Here 9 persons have died, the state of health of 90 patients is

    At Hospitals' gates crowds of hostages' relatives are gathering
    alarmed by information about gas poisoning. Their dispair is even
    bigger that nobody is giving any information in what state of health
    are their loved ones. There's no contacts with freed hostages who are
    laying in the hospitals.
  2. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    I wonder what gas WAS used?
  3. halldor

    halldor Registered User

    The Russian military isn't going to say. Meanwhile Putin has gone on TV to express his "sorrow". :(
  4. John R. Beanham

    John R. Beanham Typical Aussie Male

    They wouldn't have taken the opportunity to test a new 'military application' ........would they?????

  5. Sunriser13

    Sunriser13 Knee Deep in Paradise

    I've seen several news reports alternately using the terms "sleeping gas" and "paralyzing nerve gas", but nobody has named anything as yet...
  6. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    I wouldn't put it past them. I use this month's National Geographic as my evidence as to when and how the USSR tested Anthrax, Nukes, and other crap.
  7. jamming

    jamming Banned

    It was probably CM which is a quick incapcitant of the Tear/Vomit Variety.
  8. pupowski

    pupowski Banned

    Whatever gas it was left more survivors that the terrorists would have, and military/civilian crisis triage is never easy. Gas, however, seems to be an intelligent command decision under the circumstances. I am not inclined to second guess the wisdom of this operation's commander. His troops were at risk, his countrymen, and his career, possibly even his freedom if it went poorly and he was blamed..
  9. fritzmp

    fritzmp Fire Fire For Effect

    pup is right, they could have had a Janet Reno in charge and had another Waco incident.

    PS, she would look right at home in one of those Russian uniform.
  10. halldor

    halldor Registered User

    It's possible that the gas used in the operation that ended the Moscow siege was carbon monoxide. In which case the civilian death toll is likely to mount even further. Many of those who survived will also suffer from residual brain damage. Some 650 of the rescued hostages are still in hospital, where they are being held without access to the outside world, and nearly all the deaths so far (117) have been attributed to the gas - by Russian authorities themselves. Only one death was caused by gunshot wounds.
  11. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    A HUGE pazor (embarrassment).

    How you would you like to be a hostage taken in Russia?

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