Hell of a run, folks. With finances being tight--friends are in trouble, family need help, I am really strapped beyond. Besides that, there are MANY ways of continuing this elsewhere, without any money from anyone. If someone wants to pay for the server, let me just say it ain't worth it with all the different venues. Google+ can have a GA circle and anyone who wants to debate or post for all the GA folks will be able to see and reply to threads there. Similar things can be done in FB--although I am moving away from FB, but can definitely participate. Twitter is another venue, and many more other places where this can continue. There's certainly email too. Primary reasons is cash. I've let money out to a few folks, only one happened to be a douche about it and not pay it back yet (unfortunately, it was the biggest loan I've had, only because I've trusted). But the problem is growing. My family is in dire situations, a few close friends are losing their jobs and homes. I can't thank enough people. Primarily Tom, admins, moderators, and certainly all of the members we've had over the years. It was the best place to be for many years and you all made that possible. Thanks and see you elsewhere. P.S. the forum will be around till Aug 31st, this is the end of the contract for me and my hosting company. I will back everything up and take the database on my local drive, it will then be moved off to off-line backup storage. It will not exist anywhere on the internet if you are worried about privacy.