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Egypt

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by gretchielove, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. gretchielove

    gretchielove Full Member

    I read and read and read about Egypt and still have no idea what is going on...could it be media overload ?
     
  2. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    I think that's the nature of anarchy and chaos. It was definitely brought on by dictatorial suppression, but as to all of the events occurring, it's not really possible to make rhyme or reason of it until it stablizes.
     
  3. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    Above all, it was the inability of the poor people to rise above their circumstance.
     
  4. Stiofan

    Stiofan Master Po

    News reports are that Mubarak is stepping down today and the military is taking over. We'll see how this plays out.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/world/middleeast/11egypt.html?_r=1
     
  5. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Ah, the military taking over... that sounds like a good idea. :sarc:

    SM
     
  6. John R. Beanham

    John R. Beanham Typical Aussie Male

    Quite often, when Generals get a taste of power they like to keep it.

    Mubarak was the third General to get to the top of the heap in Egypt since King Farouk was given the shaft, but I cannot see the mullahs being satisfied with another General, and if it looks like they will miss out then they will organise "spontaneous demonstrations".

    My bet is still on the mullahs.
     
  7. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    I'm not so sure about that. I don't think the mullahs can control the crowds, and, so long as those crowds don't get too unruly, the military may not want to fire on them either, possibly because their rank and file have relatives in those crowds. Maybe, just maybe, this could be the start of a democratic era.
     
  8. John R. Beanham

    John R. Beanham Typical Aussie Male

    Swampy,

    The mullahs control EVERYTHING in their society. They have the authority of the koran to back up every word they say.
     
  9. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    What happened was a set up by Mubarak and co to get the protesters to come to Tarhir Sq. They told them, come, he will announce he is stepping down. They came, and he said, fuck no I won't go....betting on the crowd going ape shit and army just going against them in a perceived need to control them... Muby gets what he wanted, the most passionate off the streets.
     
  10. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    I just saw on CNN that he will not step down.
     
  11. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    A very dangerous game.
     
  12. John R. Beanham

    John R. Beanham Typical Aussie Male

    He probably needs a few more weeks to shift the extra billions out of the country.
     
  13. Premier

    Premier Well-Known Member

    That explains the disappearing precious metal stocks.

    :D
     
  14. Dewitt60

    Dewitt60 Farming with technology

    I was in Egypt 10 years ago on an Agricultural studies course. Cairo is a little different animal than the bulk of Egypt. It's a filthy city with an army gaurd with an AK on every corner. It's a western city with big western hotels on the Nile. Sheiks and other mucky de mucks come from all over Northern Africa to gamble and buy hookers in Cairo. The Casino in the Nile Hilton, Hyatt etc. was full of them. the city is very westeren with women wearing mini skirts and talking on cell phones. There's also the tradional burkas but it's not an opressed city like some. It's a Musilm Vegas. When we left the city to tour facilities we had machine gun jeeps ahead and behind our bus. A stark contrast to the city.Mubarak obviously has not had real control over the entire country for many years. the number one contributer to GNP when I was there was US aid second was tourisim. That's pretty dicked up now. Big US Ag compaines like Pioneer, Monsanto etc. were dumping billions into developing agriculture there which has now stopped according to people in the company I know. They're pulling back and taking a wait and see. The roads built into the desert were all built by one contractor and they all went to irriagated farm/resort areas built with gov. money. You would ride along in the sand and all of a sudden there would be wheat fields mansions and soccer fields. All kick backs paid for with US foreign aid. The real farmers had 15 acre farms a mud hut and a water buffalo for farming. Place is major league FUBAR. I remember kids playing soccer in the garbage dumps of Cairo and women doing laundery in the irrigation canals a few feet from a dead cow that had been dumped in. It's a lot different than National Geographic shows you.
     
  15. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Veteran Member

    He's left Cairo - apparently.

    I think he will relinquish power, and the question is what happens next. This could be a race against time between the Islamic extremists and the democrats (lower-case, of course), but, since the Egyptian military has been influenced by their American counterparts, the democrats have the edge for now.

    Or so I hope.
     
  16. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Mubarak is done. Fled the country and their VP just announced Muby resigned. Military took control of the country.
     
  17. mikeky

    mikeky Member

    That reminds me of the Eagles when they go back together saying "For the record, we never broke up, we just took a 14-year vacation".


    So for the record, Mubarak isn't resigning, he's just taking an extended vacation. :)
     
  18. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    He must have finally gotten his $70 billion out of the country.
     
  19. John R. Beanham

    John R. Beanham Typical Aussie Male

    Where to?

    USA or Saudi Arabia?
     
  20. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    The Swiss froze his assets
     

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