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Duke Lacrosse case

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by cmhbob, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    Some interesting quotes from the article. Seligmann is one of the first two players charged, Cheshire is a defense lawyer, Evans is the third player charged.

    And this from the Washington Post article:

    And circus time:

    (emphasis added)

    It just sounds like an extremely weak case. Perhaps the prosecutor has something up his sleeve, but once charged the accused get to see all the evidence presented to the grand jury, and nothing popped up when the first two were charged.

    Brian
     
  2. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Jeez, what's the problem?
     
  3. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Rich kids go to Duke, and this is a way to raise cash for the aggrieved and the communities which support them?

    SM
     
  4. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    You are on the roll today.
     
  5. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    I'm usually at my best when tasked to observe only the obvious. excluding web cam sessions, that is.

    SM
     
  6. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-duke09.html

    You know what's sad here? That when (if too) these guys are acquitted, it would be notched as "rich guys buying the court system".
     
  7. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    Did you know:

    • The accuser said her attackers were named "Bret, Adam and Matt"; the indicted students are Reade, Collin and David.
    • Reade Seligmann's lawyer has presented evidence that during the post-midnight time frame in which the attack allegedly occurred, Seligmann called his girlfriend six times and another person twice (12:05 to 12:14); was picked up by a cab (12:19); used an ATM (12:24) and returned to his dorm (12:45). The lawyer tried to present this evidence to the prosecutor before the indictment but was rebuffed.
    • In contravention of accepted practice, the photographs shown to the accuser included only members of the lacrosse team, no similar-looking "fillers." According to papers filed by David Evans's lawyer, the accuser failed to identify him in a photo lineup eight days after the party. In another test, three weeks after the incident, she selected his photo, telling investigators, "He looks like one of the guys who assaulted me, sort of."
    • Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong brought the first charges just before a primary in which the black vote played a key role.

    For this and other reasons Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus, who admits that her immediate, gut reaction was "guilty," now has reasonable doubt.

    Brian
     
  8. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Nice right?
     
  9. mikepd

    mikepd Veteran Member

    No problem at all seeing as how she had sex with her boyfriend.

    'Defense attorney Joe Cheshire declined to identify the mystery man or his connection to the alleged victim, but ABC News' Law and Justice Unit has learned that the unnamed source of the DNA is the alleged victim's "boyfriend," according to her mother.'

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&page=1

    This entire case smells so bad the stench is unbearable. Justice, such as it is, will have to wait until next year for the sorry affair to play out.

    Any bets nothing happens to the prosecutor, no misconduct charges, not even a chewing out by superiors for wasting money?

    Why should he care as the purpose will have been served and his reelection assured.
     
  10. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    What's sad is that the guys can't counter sue. Because I will tell you right now, there are plenty of women AND men who already ruled this case not in their favor and this will haunt them for the rest of their lives here.
     
  11. cmhbob

    cmhbob Did...did I do that? Staff Member

  12. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    This is just retarded and something that's being done to save face from the DA Office.

    Uhm, what sex charges can there be that can bring so much friggin punishment? Rape and sexual offense carry the same possible sentence of up to 40 years in prison, while kidnapping is punishable by up to 17 1/2 years.

    No, see RAPE was dropped. What sex charges can being 40 YEARS in prison!??!

    I agree with the Defense here:

    I love this part:

    They probably found out that she was pregnant with someone's kid, didn't want an abortion and needed some story? Dunno, stabbing in the dark here, but THERE WAS NEVER A CASE to begin with. This thread's participants already gleaned enough evidence from MSM to know that.
     
  13. Coot

    Coot Passed Away January 7, 2010

    Yep and aside from this agenda driven prosecutor, the elephant in the livingroom is what Duke has done to its students, its LaCrosse program and the coach. The assumption of guilt by the Duke faculty and administration is utterly disgusting. The MSM is just as bad. I just caught some of the reporting on ABC news and they're playing up the rich white kids of privilege vs. poor black girl struggling to get by angle and an implied denial of justice.
     
  14. Copzilla

    Copzilla dangerous animal Staff Member

    This case flat stinks. I was watching yesterday, and it was a DA investigator that interviewed the stripper, and she stated she wasn't sure of penetration.

    The catch? He interviewed her NINE MONTHS after the indictment. Cart before the horse, anybody?
     
  15. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    Wow. Simply freaking wow.

    SM
     
  16. Andy

    Andy ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  17. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Kick ass OpEd about the whole thing:

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009444

    During the whole thing there were two evident patterns:

    1. Blacks "knew" that Duke players "did it" and that this wasn't the only case, but one that visible.

    2. Liberals couldn't wait to have this case be for the victim. They were wringing their hands, anxiously waiting to submit their sanctimonious statements about how we are all (well, us White folk who happen to work for a living and provide enough to send our white kids to good schools) just an extension of our racist che whitey as a whole.

    Too fucking bad for both of those groups, but this is just a set back. They will wait for the next case.
     
  18. Andy

    Andy ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    That sort of fits in with a comment over at Hot Air by Mary Katherine Ham of Townhall.com and who's from Durham, a week+ ago when the charges were being dropped.

     
  19. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    That's a pretty good one too.
     
  20. jfcjrus

    jfcjrus Veteran Member

    So, what do you think?
    That all this was over nothing?

    That all this was was just LAWYERS pissing and moaning about something, hoping to collect a great fee?
    That all this was just MEDIA folks hoping to fill the 6:00pm news slot?
    That we listened to all of this for nothing? :)

    Just asking.
    Regards,
     

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