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Christian Prosecution and Awakening

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by ethics, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Funny debate I had over the weekend. When a Christian friend was upset that there was a Christian bashing on the rise across the world, Christians not just being discriminated against but killed and worse. All of this is very familiar to me as a Jew. "How did Jews able to escape that??"

    Two quick reasons that had my friend nodding:

    1. We got the fuck out of dodge. Meaning, if the government and local populace is hostile, LEAVE... Unfortunately, we learned this the hard way. But boy did we learn to get the hell out of Middle East.
    2. Which brings a very important part for Jews in the Middle East -- and the entire world -- we have our own country.
    3rd point explained later was that Jews are predominantly in the areas which are favorable and non-hostile to Jews - Israel and America.

    What do Christians need to do is to start filing for refugee status and getting the hell out.


    As Israeli Christians started doing, get closer to the Jews in the Middle East.

    In some ways, Christians in Israel more closely resemble their Jewish neighbors than their Muslim ones, says Amnon Ramon, a lecturer at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a specialist on Christians in Israel at the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies. In a recent book, he reports that Israeli Christians' median age is 30, compared with 31 for Israeli Jews and only 19 for Israeli Muslims. Israeli Christian women marry later than Israeli Muslims, have significantly fewer children and participate more in the workforce. Unemployment is lower among Israeli Christians than among Muslims, and life expectancy is higher. Perhaps most strikingly, Israeli Christians actually surpass Israeli Jews in educational achievement.

    Meaning that culturally, Christians are closer to Jews more than other religions.

    Some Israeli Christians even recently established a new political party, headed by Bishara Shlayan, a stocky, blue-eyed former captain in the Israeli navy who told me that he once beat up an Irish sailor in Londonderry who called him an "[expletive] Jew." The new party is puckishly called B'nai Brith ("Children of the Covenant"), and Shlayan says it will have Jewish as well as Christian members. Nazareth's mayor, Ramez Jaraisy, recently told the Times of Israel that Shlayan was a "collaborator" with the Israeli authorities.

    "The current Arab political establishment only brought us hate and rifts," says Mr. Shlayan. "The Arab-Muslim parties didn't take care of us. We are not brothers with the Muslims; brothers take care of each other." Mr. Shlayan, who advocates better education, housing and employment for Israeli Christians, says he also dreams of turning Nazareth into an even busier tourist spot by erecting the world's biggest statue of Jesus.

    All I can say is it's about fucking time.
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  2. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Yes, it's nice to see this happening.

    That reminds me of the The Garden of the Finzi-Continis.
  3. Greg

    Greg Full Member

    I enjoy thought topics like this and thank you for starting it Leon.

    There is one inescapable fact. In the beginning there was Judaism. Then there was a schism when a new prophet Jesus became in vogue with some. Now we had Christians and Jews, both sharing the Old Testament, but the Christians added a New Testament. Several hundred years pass and there was yet another schism when another new prophet Muhammad became in vogue with some, and we had Christians, Jews and Muslims. They too added their own book The Koran. More years pass and a minor schism (compared with the others) produced Protestantism. No prophets here AFAIK but understand that religion (history too) are not my strong suit. (This stuff makes my computer code and Internet code look simple...)

    But my point: All these religions, Judiasm, Christianity, Muslim, Catholicism and Protestantism are known collectively as "book reigions" and the book that started it all was the Bible. We who believe in one of the book religions have more in common than any of us have with any other religion.

    It is ironically amusing to consider all the people who were slaughtered over a disagreement about which version of The Book that they preferred. And sadly, it continues today.

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