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Bush family fears poetry

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Robert Harris, Jan 30, 2003.

  1. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006

    What wimps. Because some of the poets at an upcoming conference talked about writing anti-war poems the White House wimps cancelled the meeting. Afraid of words -- imagine if they had to go fight the war. rofl

    White House Cancels Poetry Symposium

    Thursday January 30, 2003 4:50 AM

    NEW YORK (AP) - The White House said Wednesday it postponed a poetry symposium because of concerns that the event would be politicized. Some poets had said they wanted to protest military action against Iraq.

    The symposium on the poetry of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman was scheduled for Feb. 12. No future date has been announced.

    More at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-2362176,00.html

  2. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    You mean poems like the one written by a NJ Nobel Laurette?

    Somebody Blew Up America

    Somebody Blew Up America
    They say its some terrorist,
    some barbaric
    A Rab,
    in Afghanistan
    It wasn't our American terrorists
    It wasn't the Klan or the Skin heads
    Or the them that blows up nigger
    Churches, or reincarnates us on Death Row
    It wasn't Trent Lott
    Or David Duke or Giuliani
    Or Schundler, Helms retiring
    It wasn't
    The gonorrhea in costume
    The white sheet diseases
    That have murdered black people
    Terrorized reason and sanity
    Most of humanity, as they pleases
    They say (who say?)
    Who do the saying
    Who is them paying
    Who tell the lies
    Who in disguise
    Who had the slaves
    Who got the bux out the Bucks
    Who got fat from plantations
    Who genocided Indians
    Tried to waste the Black nation
    Who live on Wall Street
    The first plantation
    Who cut your nuts off
    Who rape your ma
    Who lynched your pa
    Who got the tar, who got the feathers
    Who had the match, who set the fires
    Who killed and hired
    Who say they God & still be the Devil
    Who the biggest only
    Who the most goodest
    Who do Jesus resemble
    Who created everything
    Who the smartest
    Who the greatest
    Who the richest
    Who say you ugly and they the goodlookingest
    Who define art
    Who define science
    Who made the bombs
    Who made the guns
    Who bought the slaves, who sold them
    Who called you them names
    Who say Dahmer wasn't insane
    Who? Who? Who?
    Who stole Puerto Rico
    Who stole the Indies, the Philipines, Manhattan
    Australia & The Hebrides
    Who forced opium on the Chinese
    Who own them buildings
    Who got the money
    Who think you funny
    Who locked you up
    Who own the papers
    Who owned the slave ship
    Who run the army
    Who the fake president
    Who the ruler
    Who the banker
    Who? Who? Who?
    Who own the mine
    Who twist your mind
    Who got bread
    Who need peace
    Who you think need war
    Who own the oil
    Who do no toil
    Who own the soil
    Who is not a nigger
    Who is so great ain't nobody bigger
    Who own this city
    Who own the air
    Who own the water
    Who own your crib
    Who rob and steal and cheat and murder
    and make lies the truth
    Who call you uncouth
    Who live in the biggest house
    Who do the biggest crime
    Who go on vacation anytime
    Who killed the most niggers
    Who killed the most Jews
    Who killed the most Italians
    Who killed the most Irish
    Who killed the most Africans
    Who killed the most Japanese
    Who killed the most Latinos
    Who? Who? Who?
    Who own the ocean
    Who own the airplanes
    Who own the malls
    Who own television
    Who own radio
    Who own what ain't even known to be owned
    Who own the owners that ain't the real owners
    Who own the suburbs
    Who suck the cities
    Who make the laws
    Who made Bush president
    Who believe the confederate flag need to be flying
    Who talk about democracy and be lying
    Who the Beast in Revelations
    Who 666
    Who know who decide
    Jesus get crucified
    Who the Devil on the real side
    Who got rich from Armenian genocide
    Who the biggest terrorist
    Who change the bible
    Who killed the most people
    Who do the most evil
    Who don't worry about survival
    Who have the colonies
    Who stole the most land
    Who rule the world
    Who say they good but only do evil
    Who the biggest executioner
    Who? Who? Who?
    Who own the oil
    Who want more oil
    Who told you what you think that later you find out a lie
    Who? Who? Who?
    Who found Bin Laden, maybe they Satan
    Who pay the CIA,
    Who knew the bomb was gonna blow
    Who know why the terrorists
    Learned to fly in Florida, San Diego
    Who know why Five Israelis was filming the explosion
    And cracking they sides at the notion
    Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere
    Who make the credit cards
    Who get the biggest tax cut
    Who walked out of the Conference
    Against Racism
    Who killed Malcolm, Kennedy & his Brother
    Who killed Dr King, Who would want such a thing?
    Are they linked to the murder of Lincoln?
    Who invaded Grenada
    Who made money from apartheid
    Who keep the Irish a colony
    Who overthrow Chile and Nicaragua later
    Who killed David Sibeko, Chris Hani,
    the same ones who killed Biko, Cabral,
    Neruda, Allende, Che Guevara, Sandino,
    Who killed Kabila, the ones who wasted Lumumba, Mondlane,
    Betty Shabazz, Die, Princess Di, Ralph Featherstone,
    Little Bobby
    Who locked up Mandela, Dhoruba, Geronimo,
    Assata, Mumia, Garvey, Dashiell Hammett, Alphaeus Hutton
    Who killed Huey Newton, Fred Hampton,
    Medgar Evers, Mikey Smith, Walter Rodney,
    Was it the ones who tried to poison Fidel
    Who tried to keep the Vietnamese Oppressed
    Who put a price on Lenin's head
    Who put the Jews in ovens,
    and who helped them do it
    Who said "America First"
    and ok'd the yellow stars
    Who killed Rosa Luxembourg, Liebneckt
    Who murdered the Rosenbergs
    And all the good people iced,
    tortured, assassinated, vanished
    Who got rich from Algeria, Libya, Haiti,
    Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait, Lebanon,
    Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Palestine,
    Who cut off peoples hands in the Congo
    Who invented Aids
    Who put the germs
    In the Indians' blankets
    Who thought up "The Trail of Tears"
    Who blew up the Maine
    & started the Spanish American War
    Who got Sharon back in Power
    Who backed Batista, Hitler, Bilbo,
    Chiang kai Chek
    Who decided Affirmative Action had to go
    Reconstruction, The New Deal,
    The New Frontier, The Great Society,
    Who do Tom Ass Clarence Work for
    Who doo doo come out the Colon's mouth
    Who know what kind of Skeeza is a Condoleeza
    Who pay Connelly to be a wooden negro
    Who give Genius Awards to Homo Locus
    Who overthrew Nkrumah, Bishop,
    Who poison Robeson,
    who try to put DuBois in Jail
    Who frame Rap Jamil al Amin, Who frame the Rosenbergs,
    The Scottsboro Boys,
    The Hollywood Ten
    Who set the Reichstag Fire
    Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed
    Who told 4000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers
    To stay home that day
    Why did Sharon stay away?
    Who? Who? Who?
    Explosion of Owl the newspaper say
    The devil face cd be seen
    Who make money from war
    Who make dough from fear and lies
    Who want the world like it is
    Who want the world to be ruled by imperialism and national
    oppression and terror violence, and hunger and poverty.
    Who is the ruler of Hell?
    Who is the most powerful
    Who you know ever
    Seen God?
    But everybody seen
    The Devil
    Like an Owl exploding
    In your life in your brain in your self
    Like an Owl who know the devil
    All night, all day if you listen, Like an Owl
    Exploding in fire. We hear the questions rise
    In terrible flame like the whistle of a crazy dog
    Like the acid vomit of the fire of Hell
    Who and Who and WHO who who
    Whoooo and Whooooooooooooooooooooo!
  3. Domh

    Domh Full Member

    Thats possibly the worst poem Ive ever skimmed in my life.
  4. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Seems to me that some poets wanted to hijack the symposium for their own agenda.
  5. Violet1966

    Violet1966 Stand and Deliver Staff Member

    Yeah the exact same thing I was going to say. Maybe not the best thing to do right now either. People should use their heads instead of trying to make waves. Like, some people really don't understand. They love their freedom but don't understand how it's secured, to this day. Amazes me :nut:
  6. RRedline

    RRedline Veteran MMember

    Ethics, that was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I don't even know what more to say about it. Is the author trying to make us white people feel guilty for something that we didn't do?
  7. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Probably more like trying to come up with excuses for his own short comings and failures.
  8. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Something like that. And this was a Nobel Laurete spot in New Jersey.
  9. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006

    What's your point Leon -- he was not, I believe, on the conference list. So all you have done is deflect attention to the ravings of some jackass.
  10. Domh

    Domh Full Member

    Dont go pissin on the national pasttime now Rred.

  11. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    I gave you example of one poem, infused with a question. Others already mentioned that if poems are like this then it's a bit more understandable in that meanie Bush's agenda.
  12. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006

    You gave an one example, an irrelevant one.

    Others fear that the poets will hijack the agenda. I am not sure what that means -- the agenda is poetry and I do not believe that they were told what subjects to consider. But if they hijack it, so what. Are the Bushes afraid of words.

    You know, during the Vietnamwar Eartha Kitt was invited to the WH for some event -- an arts award or something like that. She made a vehement anti-war5 statement. Got the Johnson's pissed, got a little press and nothing happened.

    A few words from an artist/writer/whatever should not be feared -- unless the person doing the fearing is afraid that the words will reveal something, like he is lying. :)
  13. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Actually, the agenda is the poetry of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman, NOT the war with Iraq.
  14. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    And all I did was give everyone one dose of poetry and how it can be hijacked in to a political circle jerk.

    If you disagree with my logic, that's fine, I am not here to be agreed with. :)
  15. Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Passed Away Aug. 19, 2006

    Logic? What logic. The asshole's poem has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    Gklad you do not expect to be agreed with, since that happens so infrequently. :cool:
  16. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    You will be surprised how much I tend to agree with you, Bob, but I like debating with you since it's so friggin hard to get you emotional, hence seeing you collapse in a debate from not having a cool head.

    Glad I can still get that passion out once in a while without the need for nudie pictures. ;)
  17. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    If you look at history and the history of art you will find that it has often or even always been hijacked for political reasons. Artists tend to write about their current passion. I think that stopping a poetry symposiam for the reasons stated is paranoia. Better he should let them speak so we can all laugh at their pretensions than give them standing by stopping their meeting. I support the President's policies on Iraq but think this was handled badly.
  18. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Not sure it was the ol' prez. This was being handled by the First Lady, and I suspect it was the "staffers" that put the brakes on the thing.
  19. Violet1966

    Violet1966 Stand and Deliver Staff Member

    LMFAO Yeah like do we honestly believe now that the President or his wife make the decisions???!!! Sheesh ;)
  20. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Not that.. But rather this was one of her pet projects, and since she's content to stay OUT of the bright lights for the most part, this wasn't something the staffers wanted to drag her through. She's a classy lady and don't really blame them for dropping the thing for getting "political".

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