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Bombs go off at Boston Marathon

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Copzilla, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Wouldn't be the first time the Russians had folks on the inside in the FBI. :whistle-62:
     
  2. David M

    David M Full Member

    Todashev's father works in the Grozny Mayor's office:

    http://www.grozmer.ru/adm/28-mer-dep.html

    He has also been an aide to the minister of property and land:

    http://www.gschool53.ru/about/history/

    In 2012 Ramzan Kadyrov purged the former Mayor over land issues and installed Islam Kadyrov as his replacement, which is when Todashev must have got his present job.

    http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c154/540310.html

    In 2012 Abdul-Baki Todashev and his sons took part in a swimming marathon in memory of former President Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov, Ramzan's father:

    http://www.grozny-inform.ru/main.mhtml?Part=12&PubID=35968

    It looks as though the Todashev family has quite a few connections to the Moscow-backed regime in Chechnya.
     
  3. David M

    David M Full Member

  4. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    I had no idea the count was at five in just a month! The FBI must have borrowed a page from the FSB's handbook on interrogation techniques. We'll probably end up with yet another federal-level scandal.
     
  5. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Can someone provide a link to the other four deaths? I don't remember any of the others. Thanks.
     
  6. David M

    David M Full Member

    The "unnatural FBI deaths" story appears to be based on reports like the ones in this link and this one, which mention two. The FBI counter-terrorism unit concerned was involved in Dzokhar Tsarnaev's arrest. I don't have links to reports of the other deaths, but a search may reveal them.

    The father of Ibragim Todashev - Abdul-Baki - has issued a statement expressing fears that his son may have been tortured before he was killed.
     
  7. Sierra Mike

    Sierra Mike The Dude Abides Staff Member

    I think this is just happenstance in this case, with the two HRT bubbas getting killed. Stupid way to go, though, since you don't fastrope onto a target unless you can see it.
     
  8. David M

    David M Full Member

    Probably - though why am I not surprised that RT has picked up the story now:

    http://russian.rt.com/article/9491
     
  9. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Thanks, David. I knew about the training deaths, but didn't realize they were being counted. I thought it was five people dying during FBI interrogation.

     
  10. David M

    David M Full Member

    One is bad enough, I guess. Apart from anything else it seems awfully counter-productive, as Ibragim Todashev might have had a lot of useful information about the Boston bombings. One can only assume it was an accident, an unfortunate one.
     
  11. David M

    David M Full Member

  12. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Attila the Hun's mother said the same thing. :yellowlaugh:
     
  13. David M

    David M Full Member

    Though Attila was no Ramzan.
     
  14. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    Law enforcement officials say that Todashev was unarmed when he was killed. Weird stuff, but in the rush to get things done after the bombing, I think it was still mostly the result of sloppy protocol, e.g., questioning him for hours late at night in his own home, leaving him alone with one agent, perhaps other miscues.

     
  15. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member


    That's no excuse to shoot and kill an unarmed guy UNLESS there's stuff they are not telling us.
     
  16. David M

    David M Full Member

  17. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    I doubt it! They're too busy promoting themselves. This is funny:

     
  18. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Todashev was also a MMA competitor. I wouldn't say he was "unarmed".
     
  19. David M

    David M Full Member


    Apparently he had a metal pole.
     
  20. David M

    David M Full Member

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