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A brand new world...

Discussion in 'Society and Culture' started by ethics, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

  2. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    See, doing drugs can make the author think really deep thoughts. The part dealing with moving thoughts and personalities between self and computer or between self and another person is really over complicated. You are yourself even if you change it as he describes, I think, therefore I am.

    The second part about the amount of information is awe inspiring at first. Then you realize that the first caveman who drew on a cave wall had an inspiration. Every advance was made by the most inquisitive. Today the number of people who can sit at their computer and "only" shop or "only" watch porn is vastly more than the number of people who use it to learn about the world around them. We have more information available but the percentage of people who will advance humanity by its use is probably no more than for Neanderthals.
     
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  3. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Not sure I agree on this point. As a society we are already more intelligent than people were 100 years ago (on average). Exponentially so than a 1000 years ago. As we become more aware, less ignorant, more intelligent in many facets of our lives, we advance our entire societies. This may come at a slower pace than we want to, but change is inevitable.
     
  4. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    While it may be possible someday to "download" yourself to a computer, it's doubtful the essence in what makes you, "you", can be replicated.
     
  5. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    That's religion talking, Tom. I disagree. There's nothing special that can NOT be replicated if it's done a DNA strand at a time.
     
  6. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    I'm not so sure unless the "computer" we're talking about has gone beyond silicon (such as DNA computing).
     
  7. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Yeah, we are talking something we won't see in our lifetime (despite what the writer of that column states). There's a paragraph or two on teleportation. I think it asks an amazing question:

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  8. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    But... Is it actually murder when you have the ability to do this?

    For if you truly were "killed" at the start of the teleportation, you'd still be dead upon your arrival at the distant end.
     
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  9. Arc

    Arc Full Member

    Ah, man...its been around for years. It's called a transporter. I first saw in on NCC-1701 back in the sixties.
     
  10. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    Now you are thinking deeper! I like it. :)
     
  11. Allene

    Allene Registered User

    Aren't we assuming that these people will be the last word in sheeple? No way would I trust anyone with my brain, let alone the rest of my body. What if they decided not to reassemble me on Mars, but didn't tell me about it?
     
  12. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Well, as Kirk said in Wrath of Kahn, "Then this will be your big chance to get away from it all."
     
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  13. Biker

    Biker Administrator Staff Member

    Naw. Just thinking logically. For if teleportation were to come to being, the process would have to suspend the life process during the seconds needed to accomplish the teleportation.

    To say you're murdered because your body was obliterated means he didn't take the thought process far enough as to what's required for teleportation.

    Now, if as Allene fears, you were not "reassembled" THEN you have a case of murder.

    But..... If there's no body, how do you prove it?
     
  14. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    There's also a Theseus's paradox here. If you're reassembled at the destination with a different set of atoms than the ones that you were composed of on Earth, is it still you?
     
  15. ethics

    ethics Pomp-Dumpster Staff Member

    My man, you didn't read me quoting that article. :p Post #7 :)
     
  16. SixofNine

    SixofNine Jedi Sage Staff Member

    I did, but I wanted to explicitly mention this famous philosophical paradox by name (which you didn't! :kissmy::grin-47:).
     
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  17. ShinyTop

    ShinyTop I know what is right or wrong!

    Thinking outside the box, this teleportation's first application should be in the medical field. When you reassemble me give me a cancer free prostate. Oh, and fix the nerves in my back that affect my balance. I will leave it at that but oh, the applications that are possible.
     
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