[ethics]

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If you've been diagnosed "probable" or "presumed" 2009 H1N1 or "swine flu" in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn’t have H1N1 flu. In fact, you probably didn’t have flu at all. That's according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.

I hear everyone from at work to facebook friends complaining how they had the H1N1... Sorry. You had the FLU, which is still not a joke as it kills thousands of people.

Swine Flu Cases Overestimated? - CBS News

[tke711]

I'm tired of all the hype about H1N1. Although I'm glad that it turned out to be much more mild than feared.

[ethics]

In the beginning, most research was saying it wouldn't be all that... Now AVIAN FLU is a different beast and last I read it's spreading to humans quicker but still being contained.

[ethics]

NYT states that H1N1 has peaked in this country... It's done and over with unless it mutates. ;)

[Arc]

As you know, I am interested in, versed in, and follow medical stuff pretty closely. And frankly I take ALL information about H1N1 with a grain of salt. Never have I seen so many experts and health care officials issue such consistently on a weekly basis such conflicting national information from whether the H1N1 has peaked, when it will peak, to the groups collectively at risk the most, to when the vaccine will be available, to how many have died from it and on and on.

All I know when the vaccine is available I'm going to get my mine without trying to figure out whether I need it or not.

Finally I am really, and I mean really getting sick of every other year hearing how there is a big shortage of flu vaccine regardless of the strain. Some years there are mitigating or even valid reasons but with the frequency it happens it is just gross negligence and cost and profit motives driving the "shortage crisis."

This post has been edited by Arc: 21 November 2009 - 03:35 AM

[Greg]

I'm selling swine flu futures short. It appears it will be the equivalent of y2k, but in virii instead of in computer glitches. Or anyway most old people have some immunity. There's too many young people, lazy, whining and unappreciative. :P

[cdw]

I don't know if they are over estimated or not but I have a customer that was hospitalized with the pneumonia complications that came from the swine flu (confirmed) for two weeks. She survived.
I have a step sister who is now in the hospital with the same thing and apparently, while her tests have not come back positive yet (it takes TWO WEEKS to get the results) her body is shutting down. She's not expected to make it although I refuse to believe that.
I don't know anyone personally that was hospitalized with the regular flu.. sick for a week, sure, but nothing like this.
Don't know if it has peaked, don't really care. Scary crap is what it is.

And again, I thank Allene for speaking up about the pneumonia shots. Somehow I feel like I could fight any flu since I've gotten this shot. Might feel like real crap for a while but I'll make it through.

[tke711]

ethics said:

NYT states that H1N1 has peaked in this country... It's done and over with unless it mutates. ;)

Just an update:

Swine Flu Pandemic May Be Less Severe Than Expected - US News and World Report

[Biker]

And they're STILL peddling the hard sell. :doh1:

CDC: H1N1 still circulating; vaccine plentiful - CNN.com

[Greg]

And when there's no epidemic they'll say it was because the vaccine was so great and because so much of the public followed their advice and got vaccinated. They are justified no matter how it plays out.

I love this part:

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Schuchat said she doesn't know if the unusually cold temperatures sweeping the country will result in flu transmission, but vaccination will help reduce that risk.

So the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases isn't sure whether or not cold weather causes flu transmission... Maybe it causes colds... Maybe it causes stuck cars...

In this slow economy everybody is striving to justify their continued employment, every business striving to justify their continued profits. Except for fat cat investment and banking moguls, who already had contracts that justified their million dollar bonuses and it would actually be illegal to withhold their bonuses.

[Stiofan]

Reports accuse WHO of exaggerating H1N1 threat, possible ties to drug makers

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European criticism of the World Health Organization's handling of the H1N1 pandemic intensified Friday with the release of two reports that accused the agency of exaggerating the threat posed by the virus and failing to disclose possible influence by the pharmaceutical industry on its recommendations for how countries should respond.

Shocking I tell you. Government lying to the citizens. Amazing.

[ethics]

This is bad for two reasons.

1. One, the lying assholes (if true).
2. When the real shit hits the fan, no one will listen to WHO.

[Morg]

ethics, on 04 June 2010 - 07:38 PM, said:

This is bad for two reasons.

1. One, the lying assholes (if true).
2. When the real shit hits the fan, no one will listen to WHOM.

Fixed

[tke711]

It's now official, the H1N1 flu has run it's course:

http://news.yahoo.co...lu_who_pandemic

[Greg]

I'm glad that I'll be able to safely eat chicken and pork again.

[Buzz]

tke711, on 20 November 2009 - 01:59 AM, said:

I'm tired of all the hype about H1N1. Although I'm glad that it turned out to be much more mild than feared.

its not hype - but this CLADE is not highly pathogenic - which is pure good luck.

when a new virus emerges, two things are important

1 the strike rate - the percentage of the population that is infected

and

2 the RoM or the rate of mortality

- the 1918 H1N1 Spanish Flu had a strike rate of 25% and a RoM of 2% thereabouts - so in the USA

The population in 1918 was 80,000,000

the strike rate was 25% so 20,000,000 was infected

and some 750,000 died in a matter of weeks in the USA.

This so called swine flu which is actually - to use its proper name the A/H1N1/Mexican had a low RoM.

Complacency is only for the dull and the stupid.

The H5N1 is still out there, and its coming.

This H1N1 Mexican or Swine flu was a wake up call.

So WAKE UP.

[John R. Beanham]

Buzz,


Mate, sometimes you get me all DEPRESSED!!!

If the dollar don't get you, the birds will!

Anyone have a sharp knife handy?

SIGH!

[Greg]

John R. Beanham, on 15 August 2010 - 02:50 AM, said:

Buzz, Mate, sometimes you get me all DEPRESSED!!!

There's a forum feature for that. Even better, a similar feature is available on your television news. It's usually the biggest button and near the top of most remote controls. Push the button and all the bad news goes away!

[John R. Beanham]

Greg,


"Push the button and all the bad news goes away! "


Not with my mate Buzz it doesn't, he keeps coming back! The thing that worries me is one day he may be proved RIGHT!!!!

SIGH!

[Buzz]

LOL

you are a crack up

Reality bites I'm afraid.

I was going to write a novel about the subject - when the H5N1 first reared its ugly head in 1997 - so I had to research the subject - and it was not pretty.

I actually began writing - then I said - I can't do this because it will happen just the way I write about it.

Some say it wasn't an asteroid that wiped out the Dinosaurs - but the Bird Flu. And it could do the same to us.