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Martin Shooting in Florida

Discussion in 'Society and Culture' started by ethics, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. Arc Full Member

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    Oct 8, 2004
    As stated before it's all pretty simple as far what's relevant--it all comes down to how did the two come together and who initiated any physical confrontation and what was said between the two people before there was any physical confrontation. Most importantly what is the forensic evidence? Is the gunshot wound to Martin point blank or further away--at what angle. Is there DNA evidence on the clothes, parts of the individual such as under the fingernails, on the gun and or holster of Zimmerman--fingerprints also. What injuries did Zimmerman receive and what injuries if any other than the gunshot wound did Martin have. If Zimmerman had injuries what treatment did he receive and by who, when and where? Did the local cops take photographs, DNA samples, forensic testing, confiscate for evidence clothing worn by the participants or other evidence. What exactly did Zimmerman officially tell the local cops. What was he asked? What did they record, take down, catalog, and do to preserve the crime scene. What does the entire 911 tape say. Considering the time that has elapsed since the homicide and the fact it was raining that night unless the local cops did their job as set forth above the whole case can be seriously compromised. It is my speculative impression that there is a high likelihood that the locals didn't do exactly a Sherlock Holmes job. If that is true that would potentially seriously compromise any investigation into what actually happened and why.
  2. Chui Full Member

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    Nov 18, 2011
    I read that he is of Hispanic descent but was adopted by a Jewish family. Thus the surname "Zimmerman".
  3. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    Anyone have any doubt that this crime here is quite possibly a result of racial anger?

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-two-arrested-seminole-beating-20120402_1_victim-arrest-affidavits-crimeline

    I blame the race baiters.
  4. Arc Full Member

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    Oct 8, 2004
    Shockingly the victim's race is not mentioned. [Engage sarcasm] Doesn't the media all ways fairly and relevantly mention the race of the parties involved? [Disengage sarcasm mode.]
  5. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

    Member Since:
    Feb 15, 2002
    This right here.. Propaganda.
  6. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    I know it will shock all of you, but the victim was white. Yes, it's true.
  7. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    Oh look, another case of racial hatred being nationally broadcast. Six white men tasered and beat the bloody shit out of a single black man on March 17, calling him all sorts of racist names outside of an Applebee's in Seneca, South Carolina.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/11379-sharpton-jackson-media-silent-about-hate-crime-in-sc

    Oh wait. It's not being nationally broadcast. In fact, none of the liberal networks reported on it at all. And the actors were black, and the victim was white.
  8. Biker Administrator

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    Nov 21, 2002
    I have this gut feeling that someone will find Zimmerman and shoot him. And the press will kick into overdrive to exonerate the individual due to "extenuating circumstances".

    If this happens, they need to start charging the major players responsible for the feeding frenzy. I say start with Sharpton and Grace.
  9. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

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    Feb 15, 2002
    I doubt that will be the end of it. I believe that the WHITE boiling pot is boiling over and I fear what will happen to the Liberal entities if it does.
  10. Copzilla dangerous animal

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2002
    Oh look, another black man beat to smithereens by lunatic white kids. This time it was in Toledo, Ohio.

    http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpp/news/local/hate-fueled-weekend-beating-says-elderly-man

    Oh wait.
  11. Arc Full Member

    Member Since:
    Oct 8, 2004
    We’ve all ready covered a lot about the media coverage of this case and I think we are unanimous in our criticism. The media has been both negligent and prejudicial in its coverage.

    One thing that has greatly irritated me is the media’s inaccurate reference to Florida’s Stand Your Ground law as I understand it and its potential applicability to this killing. That laws is a separate law from self-defense with a different applicable criteria then self-defense.

    Once again the key to this case all comes down to how did the two men actually come to combat, (if they did.)

    In the simplest of terms a person can’t initiate or provoke a physical confrontation and then rely upon the immunity of the Stand Your Ground. However, regardless of who initiated the confrontation either party can invoke if during the fight circumstances evolved to the point where either party felt that their life was in danger from the other person they could use lethal force and invoked the legal argument of self-defense that, of course, is quite different than the immunity granted by stand your ground.
  12. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74866.html

    Now a prominent white politician has gone on records as saying "dirty" black owned shops in his area need to go, and be replaced by white owned businesses.
  13. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

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    Feb 15, 2002
    Mother Jones, of all places, have now admitted media bias: http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/04/nbc-jumps-shark-george-zimmerman
  14. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

    Member Since:
    Feb 15, 2002
    Wow, Don Cheadle??? Did not expect this from him or anyone in Hollywood.

    http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2012/04/05/don_cheadle_slams_nbc_over_george_zimm
  15. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    Elderly black couple is beaten (man 90 years old, a WW2 veteran, she 85 years old, married over 60 years), robbed and the woman is raped, by several young white males. Woman dies from her injuries.

    http://www.newson6.com/story/17178698/family-of-tulsa-couple-victimised-in-home-invasion-speak-out?clienttype=printable

    When are we going to quit brutally victimizing the blacks in America?
  16. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    No kidding. He's been kind of cookie cutter liberal with his political stances, but for him to make this kind of statement ratchets my respect for him up a notch. I will at least put him above Spike Lee.
  17. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    30 year veteran black female police officer gunned down by lowlife white 22 year old man, who was being stopped for having stolen property from a motel room.

    http://hinterlandgazette.com/2012/03/brevard-county-deputy-sheriff-barbara-pill-fatally-shot-traffic-stop-melbourne.html
  18. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    Now I realize that it may be a bit tedious for me to keep flipping the races of these stories, but it's to point out what SHOULD be a glaring absurdity in our nation.

    If white on black crime were even a fraction of what black on white crime is in America, there would be race riots non-stop. How the black man can even remotely claim that there is a systemic problem of racism without even considering the actions of his race is in itself a travesty of logic and civilization.

    Honestly, I'm almost to the point of making a fake news site that does this very thing, with every story, and even post fake white thug pictures. It would be a cinch to fill it with material, as black on white crime in America is so under-reported and misrepresented that the ruse would easily stand, and would sucker in news agencies and activists.
  19. Biker Administrator

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    Nov 21, 2002
    I'd host that in a heartbeat. :haha:
  20. Arc Full Member

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    Oct 8, 2004
    Up until 1995 I tracked crime statistics formally. After 1995 I continued to leisurely do so up until about 2000. Now I just make cursory inquiries, and that is all most exclusively to Los Angeles.

    In 1995 if you analyzed violent crime in California very specifically by race there was proportionately speaking virtually no violent white crime in California. The same to a lesser degree was true nationally, varying by location. There were no static white gangs.

    In Los Angeles most violent crime used to be black on black. There still is that problem but the balance has shifted with a much greater proportion shift to Latino against black with gang bangers or gang related involvement.

    You are most of the time out here a lot safer being white, even in a Latino or Black neighborhood than either a Black or Latino is.

    In crimes of say Black on White, drugs or car-jacking seem to be a common variable.

    The above is about violent crime. When you look at other types of crimes things change as far as demographics.

    If you were to have a choice to move to several places, none of which were obviously economically depressed there are many variables to consider in what would be the best “neighborhood. IMO the single or number one primary factor or variable that will ensure you a nice, quiet, safe neighborhood is you should pick a neighborhood that is very predominately White. Sadly, and I sincerely mean sadly, the whiter the better.

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