Illegals Can Now Stay

Just wondering here, we just decided to let this kid stay in the country, that means we know his parents came in illegally, are they going to jail or back to the old country? Or will the courts decide they can stay as the parents of a legal sort of like anchor babies? Looks like general scrapping of any laws regarding illegals to me.

Yes, that's what it is. The purpose of all this has nothing to do with Obama's compassion. It has everything to do with his need for the Latino vote in November.

Ya, and couple this with his administration's attack on states trying to clean up their voting lists but making sure everybody is a legal voter. I still cannot fathom not being able to enforce laws or attacking laws requiring a person have a an id proving their status to vote.

Not even talking about the lousy choices we get to vote for the elections are becoming nothing but a farce.

I know, Shiny! It drives me up the wall whenever I start thinking about it. It especially bothers me at airports. I seem to always be the one singled out for special attention. Halifax airport has INS there, so we don't have to go through customs in Detroit or Chicago on the way home. I thought surely they wouldn't bother with me last August because we'd been standing in line for two hours after the hurricane messed up all the airline schedules up and down the East Coast, and my passport was in perfect order. Wrong! I had to name every item I bought while up there, in addition to the amount I spent that was already on the form I gave him. He was very polite and friendly, but come on! There's bigger fish to fry out there. They don't have time to waste on people like me! It's almost like they have to do this stuff to make it look like they are doing their jobs. Of course, it's not the agents themselves who are deciding these policies. They have to put up with the hypocrisy from above. It's sickening! This is at the top of my list of pet peeves.

What’s being talked about is THE social Achilles heal of this country’s internal security and social harmony: Accurate identification!

The United States should accurately know who everyone is in this country. We are virtually the only first world country that doesn’t do that. That means knowing each person’s citizenship and their true and accurate personal identity. The only way of accurately achieving that is to have as a foundation some form of a National ID card. We are one of the few first world countries that do not have some form of a national ID card. A form of a National ID Card is sort of all ready in existence. It's called a passport. All that is missing is the requirement that every US citizen have one.

Regardless of what form the ID takes when appropriate situations where your identity is legally required you present that passport, national ID or whatever. If you don’t have it and are unable to produce it for cause or otherwise accurately establish that you are really Joe Blow, US citizen then you have to produce whatever legal and valid documentation to show whom you are, where you are from and proof that you are in this country legally.

Regarding the population or groups of peoples that are the main topic of this thread, non-citizens of the United States.

Regardless what policies we enact to say who stays and goes for those who are not American citizens or are resident aliens we cannot currently trust or accurately assess the backgrounds of peoples from where they came from especially with regards to second and third world countries.

Mexico and the United States enjoy a long-standing overall in the big picture a good relationship. A close relationship on different levels! However, we can even get them to cooperate with us on a normal level regarding illegal immigration and that they provide accurate background information on those coming from there and are legally trying to through our system of immigration or visas. In a hypothetical situation a Jesus Rodriguez that is a criminal in Mexico can with phony Mexico ID that is easy to get can come here and apply for entry and residency or to conduct business under the phony name of Juan Ochoa. We have no way of determining that the law abiding Juan Ochoa is actually the criminal Jesus Rodriguez.

As Shiny states, only US citizens are eligible to vote. Voting is one of the greatest privileges we have and is the most powerful individual tool of power that US citizens have. So IMO only a lunatic or someone lacking integrity would object that proof of citizenship be required to register to vote, (currently in most of the country it is not), and that when those registered to vote go to the polls they show identification to show that they are the actual one and same person registered to vote.

The whole country is black and white clear that its mandatory to have a valid drivers license to drive a car. If a police officer for any reason stops you you better have that license. Those that genuinely do not have a license get no sympathy or slack if caught! Yet certain large groups, (the usual suspects), protest for things like what Florida is doing in simply trying to insure all those register to vote are US citizens and have ID proof when they go to the polls.

Because it's par for the course in Washington, DC, these days.

"I would like to thank personally, and on behalf of the Mexican nation, President Barack Obama for his valuable decision by executive order to give an opportunity for young people who were not born in the United States," Mexican President Felipe Calderón said this morning.

In way kind of says it all.