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Another hostage decapitation threat - this time a S. Korean.

Discussion in 'Issues Around the World' started by Misu, Jun 20, 2004.

  1. Misu Hey, I saw that.

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  2. Sierra Mike The Dude Abides

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    Plunge? What do you think? Seems to me if I remember ROK soldiers at all, they'd be the last people the terrorists would want looking for them. :)

    SM
  3. BigDeputyDog Straight Shootin Admin

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    I'm not Plunge, but if the ROKs are anything like they were in the middle and late 60's, then you are absolutely correct sir!!

    BDD...
  4. Coot Passed Away January 7, 2010

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    I'd be surprised if the Koreans pull out. As I recall, the ROK Marines were some of the toughest sonsabitches in fatigues. More to the point though, why is this al zarqawi bastard still sucking air?
  5. Misu Hey, I saw that.

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    Oct 1, 2002
    The terrorists aren't going after soldiers (despite what their claim states) - they're going after civilian contractors. People not trained in combat are being taken hostage because the terrorists are spineless dickless cowards too scared to kidnap someone who might actually be able to take them on.

    The South Korean government might actually recognize that fact. Plus, isn't the S. Korean gov't less strict than the North when it comes to stuff like this?
  6. Coot Passed Away January 7, 2010

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    I think you might be missing the point here. The ROK's are, or at least were, one of the toughest military fighting units in the world. If the ROK government respects these troops half as much as they used to, they are going to seriously want to turn them loose on this scumbag and bring him back in 8 or 9 body bags.
  7. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

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    Feb 15, 2002
    I am not sure she is missing the point, I think she is nailing it. Her point is that the decision to pull out will NOT be part of the military's decision. Toughest military fighting units in the world means bupkes when politicians are involved.
  8. Coot Passed Away January 7, 2010

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    Well, times may have changed Leon, but I know for a fact that 30 odd years ago, the ROK government would not even for a moment have considered disrespecting their troops in that manner.
  9. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

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    30 years ago, they wanted US troops there.
  10. Techie2000 The crowd would sing:

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    I don't know if the US will apply any political pressure for them to stay, however considering all we've done for them, it would not surprise me if they decided to send these terrorists the proverbial middle finger...
  11. joseftu ORIGINAL Pomp-Dumpster

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    Nov 28, 2002
    An extremely good question.

    I know nothing about what it takes to catch a bastard like this. But I think we employ enough tougher, stronger, bastards who do know. So how much longer is it going to take?

    I know most of you think I'm some kind of gentle as a lamb pacifist, but I have absolutely no problem hoping that al Zarqawi is caught and killed as soon as possible.

    The other question, of course, is whether killing him will actually do any good. From what I've heard, it will...I only hope that's true.
  12. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    Nov 12, 2002
    Ah, but we might actually have to storm a mosque or two... Would this be acceptable?
  13. ethics Pomp-Dumpster

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    I used to, till I saw your stance on Israel. Now? I just think you are maturing. :p
  14. joseftu ORIGINAL Pomp-Dumpster

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    Yes. Of course. But not <b>every</b> mosque, as so many here seem to want.
  15. Plunge Passed Away July 20, 2007

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    First, the ROK military is just as mean and nasty as it used to be. That hasn't changed at all, especially their special forces folk.

    Second, the realities of the political situation has changed greatly over the years, so I'm surprised that so far, President Roh is saying the hostage taking will not affect the current military deployment in Iraq, nor will it halt future planned deployments of soldiers to Iraq.

    Of course, a group yellow bellied, scum sucking members of the parliment want to pull them out now and plan to begin legislation to ensure no more are sent. As soon as an English reference to this appears. I'll post it.
  16. Sierra Mike The Dude Abides

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    I'd been unaware the Hanguk lexicon had a word for "coward." I guess politicians are all the same.

    SM
  17. Copzilla dangerous animal

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    I don't even know what that means... So many? Who?
  18. Plunge Passed Away July 20, 2007

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    Latest info:

    First, Koreans are royally pissed off at this, and I don't blame them. Can you be a bit more crass? The only thing I learned was the word for beheading in Korean while reading the Korean news response to finding this website.

    Next, the Korean government doesn't seem to know the right response and are acting like a bunch of idiots. This administration has got to go.

    Here is the latest from them.

    South Korean Vice Foreign Minister Choi Young-jin told a news briefing."We're are trying to figure out what the deadline is. The side there is talking about the sunset, which can mean either tonight or early tomorrow morning." This really shouldn't matter as they have already stated that they will not be withdrawing their troops, nor would they be delaying further troop deployments.

    Instead of finding out when this deadline is, try concentrating on where Mr. Kim is and how, if possible, to get him out before any possible deadline passes. Of course, this is assuming he wasn't killed immediately after making the tape.

    Next, you have some kind of huge fantasy land these folks are living in. Presidential spokesman Yoon Tai-young quoted Roh as telling aides, "We need to make efforts to explain (to Iraqis) that our troops will focus on reconstruction efforts without conducting hostile activities against Iraqi people." Just what does Roh think this will change? The hostage takers are just going to say, "Oh. OK. Didn't know that. Sorry about the hostage thingy. He can go. No hard feelings?"

    Grrr...
  19. Pyrion Liquid Metal Nanomorph

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    Next thing you know, their official response will look something like this:

    "yuo giev soj??!?!??! kekekekekekekeke ^____________^"
  20. Plunge Passed Away July 20, 2007

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    Well, I figured this would happen, just wished it hadn't. Given the attitudes in Korea right now, despite the hypocracy of it all, it was to be expected.
    Appeals to release Korean captive Kim Sun-il are flooding the homepage of al-Jazeera, the Arab news network that first played Kim's abduction tape.


    Most of these appeals were from Koreans and written in a mixture of English and Korean. They appealed for Kim's release, saying the deployment of Korean troops to Iraq was because of U.S. pressure or that Koreans love Iraq and opposed the war.

    A subscriber by the pen name of "Son Ye-ri" wrote that most Koreans opposed sending troops to Iraq, but had no choice because of U.S. pressure. She wrote, "(In Korean) Please understand our position. We will work hard to see the troop deployment plan cancelled. Please let him go. (In English) please, do not kill kimsun il !! please, please, please ..."

    Lee Se-hyeon asked for understanding, saying that in Korea, which suffered both Japanese colonization and the Korean War, most people opposed sending troops to Iraq, but the nation is in a situation in which it must side with the United States.

    Jeong Yu-gyeong touchingly appealed for Kim's life, saying, "Kim Sun-il went to Iraq because he liked you [Iraqis] ... We are not sending troops to Iraq because we want to. It's just because our nation is weak ... We have no power to defy [the United States] ... Please let Kim live."


    One Internet user by the name of "js park" said, "All Koreans support your struggle against the United States, and respect your passion for the war [against the U.S.]," and left a couple of posts saying how all Koreans love Iraq, Iraqis and Iraqi religious groups.

    A poster by the name of "kim" said he understood that the "guerrillas" kidnapped Kim in order to protect Iraqi women, children and old people from violence committed by U.S. soldiers. He wrote, "The Korean people, too, have experienced death at the hands of U.S. soldiers, just like the Iraqi people."

    The following are more the thoughts that are probably going on but are being left unspoken.



    There were other posts warning Iraqis that if Kim was killed, Koreans would no longer like Iraqis, and Iraq could become an enemy. A middle school student going by the name of Lee Ung-hee said killing Kim could provoke the fury of Koreans, writing, "Revenge begets revenge, and Koreans don't want that."

    Some one going by the Internet handle of "900s from Korea" said, "This is a warning to the armed group [that took Kim]. Whatever you do, don't turn Koreans into devils. Everything hangs with what you do."

    I wonder what would happen if the Korean government said something along the lines of... "Did we say we would send 3000 troops? Excuse, we meant 6000 troops, the extra 3K all special forces there to hunt your ass down and every other murderous terrorist that is there."

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