Trancredo

[drntdrtydg]

How bout Trancredo?

[Stiofán]

Realistically, he's a one issue candidate. The Republican machine detests him, the Wall Street Journal gang hates him, he hasn't enough name recognition, he hasn't enough money and he'd be lucky to stick around through a few of the debates. Other than that, he's a fine candidate in my opinion.

[Coot]

Realistically, he's a one issue candidate. The Republican machine detests him, the Wall Street Journal gang hates him, he hasn't enough name recognition, he hasn't enough money and he'd be lucky to stick around through a few of the debates. Other than that, he's a fine candidate in my opinion.

Yep, he'd get my vote in a heartbeat...of course in order for that to happen, I'd have to move to Colorado. ;)

[drntdrtydg]

Yep, he'd get my vote in a heartbeat...of course in order for that to happen, I'd have to move to Colorado. ;)

Well thanks. immigration in France is a big issue in thier current elections. Theoretically the current immigration situation in America could be a boom for the country-the Mexican have a European heritage through Spain and a Judeo-Christian one as well. It shouldn't be that much of a leap for the whole Western hemisphere to evolve into a group of peoples living and working together as peaceful progressing set of nations.
Many of the immigrants actually have a better set of values than the current crop of Americans. The problems lie with a broad set of cultural deficiencies on both sides; mainstream America now has a whole "ghetto cult" which is a self defeating culture and is almost immediately absorbed by many of the immigrants and a lot of the nations they try to escape are so corrupt the poor buggers don't have any understanding of the notion "all men are created equal" and fail to understand that that is the only notion that ever made America anything-they soon are seduced by goverment handout, greedy corporations ready to abuse them, and become unwitting tools of corrupt politicians and businessmen underming the American middle class.
If there were real visionary Americans at the helm like we used to have our school systems would be educating, our media edifying the people instead of degenerating them, our fortunes would be building a space program instead of using our militarys honor to secure oil feilds.
At the end of the day my call for Trancredo is a sad reflection of facing the reality that America is failing to be the last best hope. We simply aren't good enough any more to absorb them. Shame all around.

[Lovehound]

Judeo-Christian Mexicans??? In all of my time in California (over 50 years) I've never met a single Jewish Mexican.

[Coot]

In all of my time in California (over 50 years) I've never met a single Jewish Mexican.

My name ees Miguelito Schwartzburger, I have best Kosher tacos in all of Los Angeles, compadre. ;)

[drntdrtydg]

Judeo-Christian Mexicans??? In all of my time in California (over 50 years) I've never met a single Jewish Mexican.

all Christians are "Judeo" as the old testament is Jewsih; America is a Jewish culture if one considers the massive historical influence of the old testament-a Jewsih document.Up until the post war era the Bible was the defining element of American culture besides its civil constitution. Whatever racial spin you want to add to it Europe, the US, anyone calling themselves Christian (Christ was Jewish) derives their culture from the Jews. Which is one of the great ironies of what the Jews have suffered at the hands of Christianity. David, Joe Mary-American as Apple pie right? Jewisih names. There are elements of various other pre-chirstian cultures that survive but an enormous bulk of the best in us and what has made us as a culture great is derived from the ethical system of the old testament.
If one really wants an eye opener to HOW much of the west is really derived from the Jews, read, "God, History, and the Jews."

Christianity is a Jewish sect. Western Civilizations survival, revival from its Roman fall, and consequent rise is because of a moral system derived from the monotheism of the Jews who believed in a just and righteous God of principles as opposed to a pantheon of fallible and and fornicating demigods, and the value Christ placed on each human soul as opposed to Romes slave economy that glorified human power.

In my opinion.

When the Spanish arrived in the new world they were horrified by the bloody pyramids littered with human sacrifice as they well should have been. IN MY OPINION that their religion is Christian now is a good thing. My opinion, no offense to anyone. Wherever in the world there is a Judeo-Christian tradition now enhanced by secular humanism providing for more tolerance among faiths I feel there is a higher quality of life.
What I'm driving at is the religous wars of the current day are not Judeo-Christian which bodes well for the peoples of the Western hemisphere to live together in civil order.

I've met TONS of Spanish speaking people of Jewsih descent. Argentina, Cuba; you'ld be surprised. Spain might have had its inquisition and drove out the Muslims and Jews and would be Protestants, many of them seem to have settled in the new world. Perhaps not mexico per se, but South America is very cosmopolitan and has a full pallette of humanity from across the globe.

[drntdrtydg]

My name ees Miguelito Schwartzburger, I have best Kosher tacos in all of Los Angeles, compadre. ;)

My brother was of Catholic and Protestant origin but went through a full seven year conversion at temple before marrying a Jewsih girl. Their Marriage didn't last (he was mad for for splitting up with her-Dianne was a Da Vinci painting come to life) but he remained in that faith until his death; he eventually realized he was Gay and spent nearly 20 years very happy with another Man from Argentina-also Jewish. Over the years most of their closest freinds circle was Jewish and I lived pretty close to them during that time and spent a lot of time with them; I couldn't put a number on their Jewsih freinds from Spanish speaking countries but there were many and they were the tips of icebergs of Jewish communities from those countries. Spanish speaking cultures may be predominantly Catholic Christian but not entirely and nearly all the Jewish people I met from those cultures represented pretty accomplished and respected positions-they represented an influential class of people in their respective countries and were not marginal or incidental....kosher tacos? Hmmm. An idea whose time had come.

[joseftu]

Judeo-Christian Mexicans??? In all of my time in California (over 50 years) I've never met a single Jewish Mexican.
That you know of, maybe, Hound!

I grew up in Southern California, and our synagogue had several Mexican families. There are at least two dozen synagogues in Mexico City. One of my college roommates (Jewish) was from Buenos Aires.

Lots of Jews left Europe when they had to and went wherever they could--including Argentina, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile, Peru, and yes, Mexico--and in most of those countries there were pre-existing Jewish communities--especially Mexico.

[drntdrtydg]

That you know of, maybe, Hound!

I grew up in Southern California, and our synagogue had several Mexican families. There are at least two dozen synagogues in Mexico City. One of my college roommates (Jewish) was from Buenos Aires.

Lots of Jews left Europe when they had to and went wherever they could--including Argentina, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile, Peru, and yes, Mexico--and in most of those countries there were pre-existing Jewish communities--especially Mexico.

Here the book I mentioned in the other post. (http://www.amazon.com/Jews-God-History-Revised-Updated/dp/0451628667) I highly recommend to Christians because although we spend our lives reading the Bible their seems to be a general inability to connect the People we define ourselves from in that book with their childrens children whom we live shoulder to shoulder. The book connects the dots.
Americans in the past as a people had to break ties with their past to join the melting pot and so we're not comfortable with lineages; this brings us back to the Trancredo issue round again becuase one of the concerns about current immigration is that the new additions to the country aren't assimailating at all.
But in a world where the entire data base of human knowledge is accessible at everyones PC the kinds of breaks Americans made in the past with their lineages are just an anachronism. Whats needed, IMO, is a new model of assimilation. The Mexican flag waving (or any other flag) is nonsense. Respect ones new country, learn it's history perspectives and languages ardently, and cherish just as well what your bringing to it.

[drntdrtydg]

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If you are watching the news today you have probably seen the mass protests by illegal aliens demanding a path to citizenship. Imagine the gall -- they sneak in here, wave their flag and demand benefits! -- Give us healthcare, give us welfare, school our children -- and now -- make us citizens! It says a lot about our elites that we have all these people parading their illegal status in the street and instead of arresting them they are putting them on television.
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The good news is that with your help we are going to put an end to all this. We have already started.


This week Senator Brownback withdrew his support from an amnesty bill he has been pushing – too little too late. And last week, the Times carried a front page exposé in its politics section detailing Mayor Giuliani's flip-flop on illegal immigration. Giuliani, the Times explains, has been trying to steer clear of the issue on the campaign trail, but the voters and Tom Tancredo just won't let him. They keep bringing it up: At the annual Lincoln Day dinner here last Saturday, Representative Tom Tancredo, [Notice they finally stopped calling me "long shot"] Republican of Colorado, received some of the loudest applause from the 1,000 party loyalists in attendance as he railed against illegal immigrants. “We are destroying the concept of citizenship itself,” Mr. Tancredo said. “America, and indeed Western civilization, are in a crisis.”
I knew Giuliani supported amnesty but even I was shocked at the extent of it. The Times reports that as Mayor, Giuliani, "advocate[ed] for $12 million to start a city agency that would assist those seeking citizenship,” and vigorously defended the city’s sanctuary policy. Giuliani, Romney, and Brownback are flipping left right and center and the media is finally getting the message. It is all because of your help. And we are not going to quit.

When it comes to immigration Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Brownback are all peas of the same pod. They love to talk about their experience in public service -- they may have the competence to run the country but they certainly don't have the courage to defend it.

It's just you and me, friends. It is our country, together we are going to take it back.

We are very excited, because in a few hours Tom is taking this message to the Republican debate at the Reagan Library. You can watch the debate Thursday night, May 3rd at 8PM Eastern time on MSNBC.

So thanks again for your support, and stay tuned, the headlines are rolling in, the march is on.

Thanks for all you do. God bless you.

Bay Buchanan

P.S. The Congressman is driving the debate; the media is getting the message. My job is to keep that momentum going.

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