The Little Multi-Billion Dollar Lie About Your Pet's Food

[ethics]

To christen the new Pets Forum...


Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - has told you the truth about what is in those bags of kibble you feed your dogs and cats. It's the biggest little billion dollar secret in our world of pets - because if anybody did tell you the truth about what is going into your beloved dog or cat's stomach when you pour stuff out of those bags - well, you would freak out, plain and simple. You'd run screaming from the room, grossed out and blind with rage. That's certainly what I did, back when I was first researching the nutrition section of THE DOG BIBLE and discovered the horrible hidden truth.

I'll let you read the rest and find out what that stuff is...

http://www.pawspot.com/info/page/resources?entry=the_little_multi_billion_dollar

[jimeez]

I don't doubt what this gentlman is saying, but he needs to support his claims with somethig other than "THE DOG BIBLE told me so."

Having worked in the grocery store business in my early years, I had several opportunities to speak with the guys from the rendering plant that came every few days to pick up the left over "meat stuff". That meat was definitely on its way to our local Purina plant. Now the stuff from the grocery store was probably very edible.....even for humans........but I can only imagine some of the crap they get from farms, vets, etc...

[Brazbit]

I am offended... That stuff is better than what goes in your average hot dog and some of your lower quality hamburgers.

[MNeedham73]

Joe's right...evidence would be nice.

I'm not saying it's wrong either. I'd guess that all pet food has things in it we'd probably rather not think about.

Some brands are probably better than others though.

[MemphisMark]

Known about it for a while now. That's why we're picky about what we get. From the research that we've done, we buy Kibbles 'n' Bits.

BTW, the link is a 404 now.

[ethics]

BTW, the link is a 404 now.

Yep, Farked or Digged I think.

[mikeky]

I'm not sure it matters what's in it as long as protein, etc., is sufficient. The cats/dogs don't care as long as it has a flavor they like.

[ethics]

I'm not sure it matters what's in it as long as protein, etc., is sufficient.

But how do we know that?

[mikeky]

There should be a label with % protein, moisture, and a few others, at least on the better feeds.

[jimeez]

I feed my pets Science Diet foods. Does anyone know if they are on THE DOG BIBLE's approved list? I sure hope it is for the money I spend on it.

[ethics]

She used Science Diet as an example of a no-no, I read?

[jimeez]

Dunno. Did she? Damnit, i hope not. I cna't even find a Google cached page for the nerfed link. You cooked 'er Leon. :lol:

[jfcjrus]

I am offended... That stuff is better than what goes in your average hot dog and some of your lower quality hamburgers.
Indeed!
If we all knew the processes involved and what goes into the meat products we <i>humans</i> purchase to eat, we would not be the least bit surprised with what went into dogfood.

Have you ever encountered a <i>crunchy</i> tidbit in a hamburger or a sausage?
Do you want to know what it was?

When I butcher a deer for my table I remove ALL gristle and membranes.
When I buy beef, I expect my butcher to do the same.
Sometimes I buy slabs of beef from the wholesale clubs, and I have to trim them of all gristle and membranes before I put them away.

I do not buy meat from a supermarket, because they don't even attempt to trim them of gristle and membranes (it's truly disgusting).
But, MOST people buy their meat at the supermarket, <i>crunchies</i> and all, and don't think much about it.
I just find it a bit humorous that such folks now might be surprised as to the ingredients of dogfood (what can't be sold to humans?).

In my opinion, unless you <i>prepare</i> your own meat from the hanging carcass of an animal, you should seriously concider becoming a vegetarian. ;)

Regards,

[ethics]

I just find it a bit humorous that such folks now might be surprised as to the ingredients of dogfood (what can't be sold to humans?).

Last time I checked, even the meat in the supermarket didn't have potential to come from a dead and/or diseased animal. ;)

[Brazbit]

They do kind of frown on live meat at my local market.

[ethics]

They do kind of frown on live meat at my local market.

I didn't think I needed to detail what I meant. *sigh*

But, since GA is full of smart alecs, allow me to elaborate.

All meat comes from dead animals that were butchered for the sake of consumption (at least that's the way it should be). What this article speaks of is of dead animals dying before they are butchered, dying of disease, cancer, infections, etc...

How's that, wise ass?

[Stiofán]

Indeed!
If we all knew the processes involved and what goes into the meat products we <i>humans</i> purchase to eat, we would not be the least bit surprised with what went into dogfood.

Have you ever encountered a <i>crunchy</i> tidbit in a hamburger or a sausage?
Do you want to know what it was?

When I butcher a deer for my table I remove ALL gristle and membranes.
When I buy beef, I expect my butcher to do the same.
Sometimes I buy slabs of beef from the wholesale clubs, and I have to trim them of all gristle and membranes before I put them away.

I do not buy meat from a supermarket, because they don't even attempt to trim them of gristle and membranes (it's truly disgusting).
But, MOST people buy their meat at the supermarket, <i>crunchies</i> and all, and don't think much about it.
I just find it a bit humorous that such folks now might be surprised as to the ingredients of dogfood (what can't be sold to humans?).

In my opinion, unless you <i>prepare</i> your own meat from the hanging carcass of an animal, you should seriously concider becoming a vegetarian. ;)

Regards,

I'm sorry Joe, but coming from an old fart like yourself I find this attitude amusing. My Norwegian grandfather used to eat anything and everything put in front of him as he grew up in a time when things weren't so pansyish (sic ;)) as they are now.

You need a big ol' hot steaming plate of haggis or some decent authentic basque dishes to put your mind straight. :haha:

Protein is protein, and as long as it doesn't have any dangerous bacteria in it, it is utilized by your body pretty much the same as any other.

[jfcjrus]

I'm sorry Joe, but coming from an old fart like yourself I find this attitude amusing. My Norwegian grandfather used to eat anything and everything put in front of him as he grew up in a time when things weren't so pansyish (sic ;)) as they are now.

You need a big ol' hot steaming plate of haggis or some decent authentic basque dishes to put your mind straight. :haha:

Protein is protein, and as long as it doesn't have any dangerous bacteria in it, it is utilized by your body pretty much the same as any other.
I can't argue with a word you said.

I was just commenting about those of us that might be pansys about what we require our teeth to crunch on.
But, you're right, if all we're concerened about is survival protein, then all bets are off, and what we feed our dogs should be even less of a concern.

I'm glad I could be of some amusement.
Regards,

[mikeky]

Last time I checked, even the meat in the supermarket didn't have potential to come from a dead and/or diseased animal. ;)
True, but a dog's digestive system probably wouldn't care one way or the other, as long as it taste good to them.

[Coot]

I did some automation work for Hill's (Science Diet) in LA, and from what I remember of their recipe structures, there is only a minimal amount of meat product put into their various kibble product. Lots of corn, wheat, rice and flax.

Iams, OTOH, is a very high protein feed and we have never hand much luck with it, as it causes digestive problems in our dogs and seems to activate hyperflatulence.

[Steve]

It seems like you've never seen a dog gobble fresh cat poop out of the litter box, or seen one happily munching away on a frog/squirrel/UFC* carcass that's been fermenting in the sun for a couple of days. :)

Cats have different food preferences, I'll grant you that.


*UFC = Unidentified, flattened carcass

[Biker]

Regardless of the source of food, the pet food industry is regulated more heavily than people food industry is.