View Full Version : Killing Stingrays as a "payback"
Piobaireachd
09-13-2006, 04:55 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=acdQTOouT9rU&refer=australia
Sometimes I can't believe how fucking stupid people can be. :shake:
ethics
09-13-2006, 04:57 PM
Retarded, idiotic, just plain waste of life.
Aussies DO drink a lot, dont they?
Fucking retards. Steve is spinning in his grave.
:vmad:
Piobaireachd
09-13-2006, 05:09 PM
Aussies DO drink a lot, dont they?
Fucking retards. Steve is spinning in his grave.
:vmad:
I'm sure the same thing would be happening here as well. Nobody has exclusivity on dipshits.
Nobody has exclusivity on dipshits.
True that, but no excuse. When a dipshit does shit like this, they get dipped in shit, no matter where they are from.
MNeedham73
09-13-2006, 09:03 PM
I'm sure the same thing would be happening here as well. Nobody has exclusivity on dipshits.
Hell Todd, it happened here after the movies Jaws came out.
Piobaireachd
09-14-2006, 12:49 AM
Hell Todd, it happened here after the movies Jaws came out.That's right! I completely forgot about that. Stupid people shouldn't breed.
Stiofán
09-14-2006, 02:04 AM
And here I've been told only Americans can act like scum. Amazing.
ditch
09-14-2006, 07:25 AM
The people who committed these acts are cruel, stupid and all that. Pathetic. They won't be caught but I wish they would be so at least some type of punishment comes their way.
Piobaireachd
09-14-2006, 10:41 AM
The people who committed these acts are cruel, stupid and all that. Pathetic. They won't be caught but I wish they would be so at least some type of punishment comes their way.I believe Karma catches up to everyone sooner or later.
This is just so sad.
I believe Karma catches up to everyone sooner or later.
Sometimes it does and sometimes it does not. Westerners are, commonly, very confused regarding the concept of Karma.
Karma is, literally, a "skillful action" which acts to alleviate suffering. Good Karma are acts (so many times LACK of action!) that alleviate the suffering of oneself, another, another living thing. Bad Karma are acts that cause suffering, and are "unskillful".
The idea of Karma "coming back to get you" or "catching up with you" is, rather interestingly, a Western sort of confusion mashing up the idea of good deeds and bad deeds and the Christian concept of Sin and reprecussion. I find it totally fascinating.
At least 10 stingrays have washed up on beaches in Australia's Queensland state with their tails cut off since Irwin died on Sept. 4, Queensland's Department of Primary Industries and Fisheries said in a statement yesterday. Animal welfare officers are investigating, the department's General Manager Rick Symons said.
This isn't really very many. Far more than this are killed each day just off the southern california coast when they're inadvertently caught by fishermen. It's not easy and somewhat dangerous to get them unhooked and released alive. Usually, they're just gaffed, brought aboard and unhooked. I've known a number of fishermen who will stand on the tail and cut it off to prevent getting stung while trying to remove the hook. Methinks attributing this to vengeance may be a tad premature.
Piobaireachd
09-14-2006, 12:36 PM
Sometimes it does and sometimes it does not. Westerners are, commonly, very confused regarding the concept of Karma.
Karma is, literally, a "skillful action" which acts to alleviate suffering. Good Karma are acts (so many times LACK of action!) that alleviate the suffering of oneself, another, another living thing. Bad Karma are acts that cause suffering, and are "unskillful".
The idea of Karma "coming back to get you" or "catching up with you" is, rather interestingly, a Western sort of confusion mashing up the idea of good deeds and bad deeds and the Christian concept of Sin and reprecussion. I find it totally fascinating.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/buddhismtoday/bc028.htm
I am/was Nichiren Shoshu. Actually I'm not sure what I am anymore so I claim Agnotic. I still do believe in many of the teachings.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/buddhismtoday/bc028.htm
I am/was Nichiren Shoshu. Actually I'm not sure what I am anymore so I claim Agnotic. I still do believe in many of the teachings.
Very cool, and a great link!
:thumbsup:
ditch
09-14-2006, 05:45 PM
This isn't really very many. Far more than this are killed each day just off the southern california coast when they're inadvertently caught by fishermen. It's not easy and somewhat dangerous to get them unhooked and released alive. Usually, they're just gaffed, brought aboard and unhooked. I've known a number of fishermen who will stand on the tail and cut it off to prevent getting stung while trying to remove the hook. Methinks attributing this to vengeance may be a tad premature.
You may be right Coot. The defensive line from the local council was that this is by no means the first time that this sort of thing has happened. The timing on this occasion has got people more upset than usual.
joseftu
10-19-2006, 01:47 PM
And now (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061019/ap_on_re_us/stingray_stabbing) the stingrays are taking their revenge!
LIGHTHOUSE POINT, Fla. - An 81-year-old boater was in critical condition Thursday after a stingray flopped onto his boat and stabbed him, leaving a foot-long barb in his chest, authorities said.
"It was a freak accident," said Lighthouse Point acting fire Chief David Donzella. "It's very odd that the thing jumped out of the water and stung him. We still can't believe it."
Stiofán
10-19-2006, 03:45 PM
This guy is 81 years old and lucky to be alive. The barb pierced his heart, yet he managed to get his boat to shore and then call 911.
ethics
10-19-2006, 03:49 PM
This guy is 81 years old and lucky to be alive. The barb pierced his heart, yet he managed to get his boat to shore and then call 911.
Aside from being pierced, when I am 81, I hope I am in the same physical shape! ;)
MNeedham73
10-19-2006, 03:50 PM
His granddaughter and her friend got the boat to shore, just to clarify.
Stiofán
10-19-2006, 04:44 PM
That's not the way I heard it reported this morning on CNN, the bastion of truth.
MNeedham73
10-19-2006, 04:49 PM
CNN must've changed their tune from this morning then. They're re-printing the AP article on cnn.com that states:
James Bertakis of Lighthouse Point was on the water with his granddaughter and a friend Wednesday when a stingray flopped onto the boat and stung Bertakis. The women steered the boat to shore and called 911.
Stiofán
10-19-2006, 04:54 PM
God forbid they lied!
spazmonkeyyy
10-19-2006, 08:35 PM
i'm a huge animal lover. ask my dad. i've been watching "the crocodile hunter" for as long as i can remember. steve irwin loved animals, and would never kill one. if he knew this was going on, he'd have a fit. people need to understand that an animal only attacks if it feels threatened. steve knew he was taking a risk swimming over that stingray. it was a rare freak accident. stop killing the stingrays.
ditch
10-19-2006, 11:51 PM
If you read the full thread dafter, you'll see that it is highly unlikley that any rays have been killed because of what happenned to Steve Irwin. They are often killed by fishermen, and the stories appearing in the press are of killings that are coincidental to Steve's death, not in retributuiion for it.
And yes, Steve would be turing in his grave if anyone was attempting to get back at the rays as the stories have implied.
spazmonkeyyy
10-19-2006, 11:58 PM
you're right. i said that wrong. don't start killing them.
i just saw on the news that another guy was stabbed in the heart by a sting ray. he didn't pull the barb out, and doctors believe that that is what saved his life. out of curiosity, does anyone think that steve would have survived if he didn't pull the barb out?
Yep, good old Florida. Home of killer gators and sting rays. I was amazed listening to the news last night. The thing actually jumped into the boat and landed on the guys lap. WTF? As for these things being freak accidents, they said there are over 1500 'stings' per year. I don't think that's so damned 'freak'. That figure, I believe is less than shark attacks....quite a bit so.
Violet1966
10-20-2006, 11:57 AM
I know someone personally who was hit by a stingray in low water while on vaca in Mexico. Got her in the foot and she was bleeding badly and needed emergency medical assistance right there on the beach. Luckily there was a doctor on the beach that day who responded and knew just what to do.
MNeedham73
10-20-2006, 12:23 PM
Stings happened several times while I was in San Diego. I remember one in particular, a little boy was wading around and took one clean through his leg.
Ouchie.
ditch
10-20-2006, 04:34 PM
The smaller ones, not the size that got SW, can be impossible to see when they cover themself in a thin layer of sand. In shallow water they're very easy to tread on.
Yep, good old Florida. Home of killer gators and sting rays. I was amazed listening to the news last night. The thing actually jumped into the boat and landed on the guys lap. WTF? As for these things being freak accidents, they said there are over 1500 'stings' per year. I don't think that's so damned 'freak'. That figure, I believe is less than shark attacks....quite a bit so.
That was a typo...it's quite a bit MORE than shark attacks. I should really slow down when I type, lol.
Coriolis
10-27-2006, 02:06 PM
That was a typo...it's quite a bit MORE than shark attacks. I should really slow down when I type, lol.
But what's funny (funny strange) is that I read it as "more" even though I didn't see your clarification until after... I guess the context of message was clear enough to negate the typo. I find that interesting... :)