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Sacchiridites
02-19-2005, 02:32 AM
I have not really been a fan of Dali. Now I finally know what it was that bugged me about him, er, I mean his works. I mean, it took so much out of me to just take in a coffee table book of his works-so twisted. But, that's surrealism for me. Heavy stuff.
When I took a listen at this interview: http://www.whyy.org/news/artsandculture.html
I heard some of the same cliche descriptions I hear about all artists... "30 years before his time" and blah, blah. In the radio article I heard Dali speak for probably about the fourth time in my life. Again, it was all about him, his personality, his art reflected HIM. I found out that what I didn't like was how he shamelessly self-promoted himself, not his work, not how it reflected this or that to benefit society or capture an event of mankind, although his works have been interpreted to reflect and change with the times.
Personally, I like his writing and films more than I liked his painting. Even his photography is at best, surreal. At least I find humor in his quotes, and not dark self-hatred that I seem to see in his paintings. Here are a few of his quotes:
Salvador Dali:
"The only difference between myself and a madman is that I am not mad."

"The only difference between me and the Surrealists is that I am a Surrealist"

"At the age of six years I wanted to be a chef. At the age of seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambitions have continued to grow at the same rate ever since."

"Every morning when I awake, the greatest of joys is mine: that of being Salvador Dalí."

"I tried sex once with a woman and that woman was Gala. It was overrated. I tried sex once with a man and that man was the famous juggler Federico Garcia Lorca [the Spanish Surrealist poet]. It was very painful."

As you can read, he is quite self-absorbed. Is it a prerequisite of artists to be so completely self-absorbed? Is this what really makes art....art?

Coot
02-19-2005, 02:44 AM
Is it a prerequisite of artists to be so completely self-absorbed? Is this what really makes art....art?

No, but it is what makes Salvadore Dali...well, Dali. Look back on the era and Dali's works and you'll see the fine line he walked between being Avant Garde and Savant Tard.

ethics
02-19-2005, 10:30 AM
As you can read, he is quite self-absorbed. Is it a prerequisite of artists to be so completely self-absorbed? Is this what really makes art....art?

If we can find out about Michaelangelo or DaVinci, or the generations of people who made mosaics that are now splashed all over the Vatican, I would say no.

What Dali and "artists" like him do is compensate with their lack of talent with an attitude. If some ignorant people think he is so arrogant, then there must be a reason, "why, he must be good!"

Sacchiridites
02-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Perhaps it's not that he's '30 years before his time' but 300 years before his time, when artists were revered and coveted, and quite compensated for providing royal services.
Nah, he wouldn't serve anyone but himself. I can't see Dali accepting one commission that wouldn't involve his artistic freedom to express 'Salvador Dali.'

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