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Stiofán
12-17-2004, 09:11 PM
This is both scary and alarming if true, but I find it hard to believe it is so.

Nearly half of all Americans support restricting the civil rights of Muslim-Americans. (http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBE9IN0V2E.html)

But Joe and Techie should take some solice in this ;) :

The survey conducted by Cornell University also found that Republicans and people who described themselves as highly religious were more apt to support curtailing Muslims' civil liberties than Democrats or people who are less religious.

So what do you all think? Is this poll unreliable, or is it right on the money? I will say, without knowing the questions, the pollsters in the article seemed to imply that profiling to prevent terrorism is a curtailment of civil liberties. I'm not so sure I'd agree with that, and I may be one of those agreeing with the premise if that is a definition. I find it asinine when we pull 86 year old grandmothers out of line when boarding an airplane, but then let 3 twenty-something middle eastern men walk right on. I watched one time when I myself was boarding, everyone was allowed on except one guy who was pulled out of line - obviously a computer selection, he was in his forties, severly mentally disabled, and travelling with his elderly mother. They forced him to remove his shoes, jacket and then opened his small carryon and pulled everything out in from of us all, while we filed past.

Copzilla
12-17-2004, 09:27 PM
What a bullshit poll...

Did you know that almost 78% of Democrats and 94% of self-proclaimed "liberals" support curtailing Muslim American's civil liberties?

Yep. They support gun control, which is a constitutionally guaranteed civil liberty. See how that works?

This poll was engineered to get the results it reached. You ask specific questions, and you can reach any conclusion. For instance, ask 38 different questions all pertaining to one pre-ordained topic and then get the varying public to bite on one of those 38 things or another, in order to jack up the overall percentage.

The poll also indicates that it violates civil liberties for authorities to infiltrate a Muslim organization to see what all is going on... And what civil liberty that would violate isn't clarified, it's just assumed.

Typical liberal bullshit coming from academia.

cdw
12-17-2004, 09:36 PM
http://www.comm.cornell.edu/msrg/report1a.pdf
http://www.comm.cornell.edu/msrg/report1b.pdf
These are the full reports although they don't give you the questions as asked either.
I wonder if the people who didn't know the words Allah and Koran are the ones that don't watch TV too often. :)

Stiofán
12-17-2004, 09:42 PM
Well, that some good points CopZ. Without knowing exactly how they worded the poll, I guess they could come up with just about any answer they wanted to. At least the AP felt they didn't need to sensationize it with the wording of their article (not...).

mikepd
12-18-2004, 01:40 AM
Liars, damned liars, and pollsters. The liars are more honest.

Doctor Dan
12-18-2004, 09:55 AM
While I do not support restricting the civil liberties of Muslim-Americans, I believe we should be far more restrictive in which foreigners can enter the United States, and far more aggressive in identifying and deporting or detaining those foreigners who are here illegally.

- Dan

archidante
12-18-2004, 10:22 AM
and those pesky Jahovah witnessess too....we should make them all get a subscription to gentlemen's quarterly-ugh, the outfits (what a world! what a world! white shirts with short sleeves and clip on ties -aghhhhhh!)

ethics
12-18-2004, 10:25 AM
Poll conducted by the Academia that points at Republicans and religious (clearly Christians) being bad people.

Newsflash... NOT!

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