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ethics
02-17-2004, 10:00 AM
Anwar Iqbal of UPI describes a new terrorist survival information kit being circulated among the jihad zombies: Terrorists prepped for a long conflict (http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040213-113721-1802r.htm).

A manual begins with a general warning: “Every member will take all necessary precautions in his personal and social life to protect the group and its leadership ... in his personal life, each member shall merge completely with the society he lives in so that he is indistinguishable from other members of the society.”

It features instructions for al Qaeda units:

* “If you live in an area where people wear Western dress, you also dress like them ... if the majority in that area has a secular mindset, do not express your religious sentiments.”

* “Look closely at the ethnic complexion of your neighborhood ... if the area has a large number of people from Punjab [province in Pakistan], stay away from them because they often spy for intelligence agencies.”

* “Don’t visit the local mosque regularly. Instead say your prayers at your residence, even the weekly Friday prayer.”

* “Know your neighbors but do not make too many friends ... do not travel unless you have to ... do not visit new cities and countries ... never keep illegal objects while traveling ... never carry audio or video cassettes and posters of your group or leader while traveling.”

The kit offers tips on using a cell phone:

* “Use a cell phone only when you must and an alternative means of communication is not available ... it is better not to use cell phones at all ... if you must use a cell phone, use the one obtained under fake name and address ... never use a phone provided by your ‘nazm’ for calling a friend or a relative.”

How to use the Internet:

* “For using the Internet, you must go to an Internet cafe ... never use the same Internet cafe again and again ... before leaving the cafe, remove all evidence ... while sending an e-mail, never use the language that could reveal your ideological commitment.”

In the meantime, in this interview with Steven Emerson from June 1997, worth reading again today as most of the US slips back into a narcoleptic dream world where Janet Jackson’s nipple brooch is the big news: Get Ready for Twenty World Trade Center Bombings (http://www.meforum.org/pf.php?id=353).
MEQ: What’s the reach of the radical groups?

Emerson: They have created a substantial social-religious infrastructure in the United States like in the Middle East, one that is radicalizing segments of the Muslim population and getting them to see the United States as an “enemy of Islam.” This extremist environment, which fails to get appropriate media attention, is rapidly growing. For evidence, just look at the growing numbers who attend radical conferences and the proliferation of militant Islamic organizations. Look also at the near-unanimous defense of Hamas and Hizbullah terrorism, among not only radical Islamic groups but even such “moderate” Arab groups and leaders, such as James Zogby. Look how the established Muslim and Arab organizations spread anti-American and anti-Semitic literature and videos.

MEQ: Which fundamentalist organization do you consider the most threatening?

Emerson: The ones that succeed most in deceiving the White House, Congress, and the media. They advance themselves politically largely by creating false-front organization that permit them falsely to portray themselves as moderates who reject violence and are committed to pluralism and civil rights. These groups remind me of David Duke, a former KKK leader who has also put together a “human rights” organization; or how the mafia created an Italian-American civil rights group to intimidate its critics; or the communist front groups of old.

MEQ: Which are some of those groups?

Emerson: The most duplicitous include the American Muslim Council and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (yes, our lovely CAIR folks, L.K.), both Washington-based and portraying themselves as in favor of “civil rights” and “dialogue” but in fact dedicated to an ideology of violence, the suppression of true freedom of speech, and discrimination against women. These groups also defend and support militant Islamic terrorist groups.

Specifically, the American Muslim Council helped raise defense funds for Hamas terrorist leader Musa Abu Marzook; defended Omar Abdel Rahman, the militant cleric who organized the World Trade Center bombing; portrayed Iran and the Sudan as “moderate” regimes with good human-rights records; and headquartered Anwar Haddam, a leader of Algeria’s Islamic Salvation Front (known as FIS), a fundamentalist group that has carried out horrific executions of (among others) Algerian women who refuse to wear a veil.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, which has branches around the country, was created by the Islamic Association for Palestine, a group that former FBI official Oliver Revell has labelled a Hamas front. 11 CAIR attacks those who expose militant Islam as “defaming Islam.” As such, it hopes to import the “Salman Rushdie rules” to intimidate opponents, though instead of proclaiming fatwas, it claims that their writings lead to “hate crimes” against Muslims. Toward this end, CAIR fabricates acts of anti-Muslim bias. For example, they claim both the arrest of Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook and the conviction of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman as acts of “anti-Muslim” persecution. CAIR is Hamas with a K Street address in Washington. But a terrorist in a suit remains a terrorist.

MEQ: Are the AMC and CAIR the only groups you consider dangerous?

Emerson: Hardly. The Islamic Circle of North America (or ICNA) proclaims in writing its support for jihad, or holy war, against the “enemies of Islam”; its U.S.-based conferences and publications are replete with the need to support the terrorist regime of the Sudan and the need to support “Islamic movements” in which category they include Hamas and the Islamic Salvation Front among others. ICNA’s hatred of Jews is so fierce that it has taunted Jews with a repetition of what Hitler did to them.

The Islamic Society of North America features speakers who have issued radical attacks on the United States, Christians and Jews as well as fundraising events for arrested terrorists. The United Association for Studies and Research is Hamas’ strategic arm in the United States; its leader, Ahmed Yusef, has called for the annihilation of Jews. The Islamic Association for Palestine and it cousin charity, the Holy Land Fund for Relief and Development are Hamas fronts. The World Assembly for Muslim Youth and the International Institute for Islamic Thought are two wealthy Islamic foundations that provide millions of dollars to other smaller radical groups. The Muslim Arab Youth Association has featured speakers who openly exhort their followers in the United States to carry out suicide bombings.

cdw
02-17-2004, 10:29 AM
This looks like the same "manual" that was found after 9/11.

Leon, you appear to be getting worried again.... why?

ethics
02-17-2004, 10:35 AM
Many reasons and I will try to convey some.

1. Many Americans--especially those outside of NY-- already forgot what 9.11.01 was and getting lax. Mostly the laziness is on the security side where I am still not comfortable that US has done even half the measures it should be. I also do not mean just the airlines but across the board, and across the land.

2. A new generation of Al Qaeda leadership has taken over the organization, and its strategy has changed: now Islamists are going after targets in Russia, Iraq, and Saudi (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0213/p01s02-usfp.html). With 3/4 of Al Qaeda's leadership dead and the rest on the run, more attacks in the US might be unwise. However, this is precisely the time the US should be vigilant in applications of new rules and strategy. Just because we have not been hit in 2-3 years doesn't mean we have stopped being a target. The targets have shifted just a bit.

cdw
02-17-2004, 11:02 AM
I read the article the other day. I also was reading something...was it here..no, I don't think so... exploring or questioning why we haven't been hit again. Because they can't top what has already been done, because we have made it so much more difficult or have they changed their scope.

I'm also concerned about the groups here in the US that are being courted by the candidates. I'm not sure how to discern between the good and the bad or where anyone's loyalty really lies. (within those groups, not the candidates..their loyalties lie with getting elected)

Coot
02-17-2004, 11:09 AM
Another big hit inside our borders, and I think it safe to say that the neocons have a plan in place to declare martial law. I really believe that's how it will come down and that, quite frankly, disturbs me more than dealing with the immediate aftermath of another attack.

rowd
02-17-2004, 03:23 PM
Another big hit inside our borders, and I think it safe to say that the neocons have a plan in place to declare martial law. I really believe that's how it will come down and that, quite frankly, disturbs me more than dealing with the immediate aftermath of another attack.

Just what would Martial Law look like in the USA? I saw what 911 did to the country. How the hell is everyday business going to be conducted under Martial Law? Like getting food, going to work, etc. I can't begin to imagine.........

Techie2000
02-17-2004, 05:04 PM
The plan might be there. However it will never work. It might last a few days, but the American people hold their freedoms too sacred to allow marial law to go on for an extended period of time.

ShinyTop
02-17-2004, 05:44 PM
The plan might be there. However it will never work. It might last a few days, but the American people hold their freedoms too sacred to allow marial law to go on for an extended period of time.

I thought so, too, until everybody accepted the Patriot Act.

If martial law were enacted between now and November I would bet elections would be delay or canceled. Especially if polls indicate Bush is losing.

joseftu
02-17-2004, 05:46 PM
I thought so, too, until everybody accepted the Patriot Act.

If martial law were enacted between now and November I would bet elections would be delay or canceled. Especially if polls indicate Bush is losing.
Man, Shiny, do you specialize in dreaming up nightmare scenarios, or what?

(shudder)

I hadn't even thought of that!

mikepd
02-17-2004, 06:13 PM
Shiny and I share some serious nightmares. If the terrorists were truly smart and not just ideological, they would pull off something in early October or late September that would make 9/11 look like the proverbial Sunday walk in the park.

The resulting demand for security of the homeland and response to the terrorists *at any price* would be impossible for any politician to stand against.

Any that had the strength of character to say so far but no farther in the denial of personal freedom for the sake of the whole would never get re-elected.

If you adopt the mentality that it is OK to repress certain individual rights for the sake of the whole then it is only a matter of time before the whole has precious few rights for the whole is made up of individuals.

cdw
02-17-2004, 07:06 PM
I agree with you Techie. It wouldn't last. While it might have to end in an ugly way, such as a revolution, it WOULD end.

Leon, you see what you've done? You have everyone dreaming up a worst case senario!

ethics
02-17-2004, 08:45 PM
Leon, you see what you've done? You have everyone dreaming up a worst case senario!
I am actually surprised by the fears presented. That would not be one of mine but to each their own.

My own fear? What Karl Marx defined as Oriental Despotism and what Wittfogel calls a form of a "beggars' democracy," where people talk at will, in groups even, but can never expect to change anything.

Robert Harris
02-17-2004, 08:51 PM
I was in Washington, D.C. one night when the military took control of the streets. (I think it was the night MLK was assassinated and there was fear of rioting.) Let me tell you, seeing a couple of soldiers armed with rifles on every corner, watching everyone going by -- and trucks full of them zipping around -- is scary. They were there next day, too. I don't really want to see that become normal.

Techie2000
02-17-2004, 10:18 PM
I am actually surprised by the fears presented. That would not be one of mine but to each their own.

My own fear? What Karl Marx defined as Oriental Despotism and what Wittfogel calls a form of a "beggars' democracy," where people talk at will, in groups even, but can never expect to change anything. I would think that would be a conservative's paradise...;)

ethics
02-17-2004, 11:14 PM
I can't see how that can be anyone's paradise, I also do not think that we are too far from beggar's Democracy and there's certainly no need for a terrorist attack for this to become reality.

Techie2000
02-17-2004, 11:47 PM
I can't see how that can be anyone's paradise, I also do not think that we are too far from beggar's Democracy and there's certainly no need for a terrorist attack for this to become reality.Well, conservatives tend to be against change, and what more could make someone who is against change happy than an environment where there isn't any change?

Coot
02-18-2004, 12:00 AM
Conservatives aren't necessarily against change, they're against the growth of government. The problem is, most 'changes' usually involve a new government program. Offer up some changes that reduce the roll of government and reduce government interference in people's lives and they're all for it. Oh...and pay no attention to the religious whackos on the extreme right. ;)

Neo
02-18-2004, 12:07 AM
Terrorists are not stupid. But they are not smart either. They also need friends. Lots of friends. Those friends have separate agendas from the terrorists but share many of the same goals--but for different reasons. Now they and their friends know that the next election will be Bush against Kerry. Who do they want to win? How can they best accomplish that?

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