Water cut off from refugees

[David McDuff]

13.2.2004

The water has been cut off from refugees.

INGUSHETIA. In the tent camps and other places where Chechen refugees
live in Ingushetia, the water supply has been cut off. According to the
information agency SNO, on February 11, representatives of “Doctors
Without Borders” traveled through various places where Chechen refugees
reside, among them the tent camps “Satsita” and “Sputnik” (village of
Ordzhonikidze), “Bart” (in the town of Karabulak) and several other
places of temporary residence (also known as PVRs). In all of these
places, the water supply had been cut off.

Due to the absence of water among the refugee camps and PVR’s there
could be an outbreak of infectious diseases, considering that people
must not only drastically reduce their use of water, but that they are
also forced to get water from rivers and other sources. According to the
refugee population, the shutting off of water marks the beginning of a
new wave of pressure against the refugees.

By creating unbearable living conditions for the Chechen refugees on the
territory of Ingushetia, the government is attempting to force them to
“voluntarily” return to Chechnya.

Translated by Rebecca Gould
PRIMA News Agency [2004-02-12-Ingush-03]

[ethics]

By creating unbearable living conditions for the Chechen refugees on the
territory of Ingushetia, the government is attempting to force them to
“voluntarily” return to Chechnya.

Translated by Rebecca Gould
PRIMA News Agency [2004-02-12-Ingush-03]
Funny how in 50 years, Israel has never tried the above and yet got the most criticism from the entire world on their behaviour. Meanwhile, anyone remember Chechens?

[Sierra Mike]

Excuse me, who? Weren't they an alien race on the classic Star Trek?

SM

[David McDuff]

Funny how in 50 years, Israel has never tried the above and yet got the most criticism from the entire world on their behaviour. Meanwhile, anyone remember Chechens?

Perhaps Time Magazine (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040223-590685,00.html) ?

Though they are mainly concerned to point to an "Al Qaeda" link between "Chechen terrorists" and Kurdish separatists.

Looks as though Time journalists have been listening to Mr Putin again.

[Sierra Mike]

Well, Chechens WERE killed and captured in Afghanistan, and this came to my from a buddy in 5th SFG. So at least on an individual level, it's true.

SM

[David McDuff]

Well, Chechens WERE killed and captured in Afghanistan, and this came to my from a buddy in 5th SFG. So at least on an individual level, it's true.

SM

Possibly the question to ask is: "how many?"

The figures that are currently being quoted are just not believable. In the Time article, Jacquard (who he?) is quoted as saying that "Western intelligence agencies believe al-Zarqawi has called for 1,500 to 2,000 jihadists to leave Chechnya for Iraq."

There's absolutely no evidence on the ground to support this claim, and there's also the fact that the text of al-Zarqawi's letter, of which Jacquard makes so much, doesn't even mention Chechens or Chechnya...

Just wondering.

[ethics]

Another question I have is why would any Chechen, radical or otherwise, want to leave Chechnya for Iraq? As far as we all know, Chechens have longs way to go in order to win their war with Russia. Why leave to Iraq when Chechnya is an incomplete deal?

[Sierra Mike]

Another question I have is why would any Chechen, radical or otherwise, want to leave Chechnya for Iraq? As far as we all know, Chechens have longs way to go in order to win their war with Russia. Why leave to Iraq when Chechnya is an incomplete deal?
Excellent question. I prefer to get the details from folks who are closer to the ground as opposed to rags like Time. That there are Chechens in at least Afghanistan is, for me, beyond dispute. But elsewhere, outside of Chechnya? Don't know. Would be suspicious of such assertions, until a more reliable source provides something more detailed.

SM

[ethics]

Perhaps the people that are labeled as Chechens, that were found in Afghanistan, were not REALLY Chechens but a roaming hoarde of idiot mercenaries?

[Sierra Mike]

I severely doubt there is a Chechen movement to fight the infidels outside of Chechnya. I think these guys were either mercs or some of the "faithful" who came to the "greater aid of Islam" by participating in external combat. But any assertions that there's a dedicated intent on the part of the Chechen command structure to wage war external to Chechnya is, in my mind, very unfounded.

Like I said, it seems to be the work of select individuals, nothing organized.

SM