View Full Version : Sins of the past finally catch up with the mutineers on Pitcairn Island
melpomene
06-16-2003, 10:08 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/from_our_own_correspondent/2990726.stm
Pitcairn Island is a tiny island (8km by 4km) half way between New Zealand and Peru. It is the island that Fletcher Christian and his followers of the "Mutiny on the Bounty" fame, fled too, with 6 Tahitian men and 12 Tahitian women.
http://www.pitcairn.pn/Pitcairnshistory.htm
But it seems time, or rather history has crept up on the tiny island and its insular and isolated residents. Only 46 of them. :rolleyes:
Squabbling between residents and Britain have commenced, in relation to a sexual offense hearing, that happened on the island with some of the male residents.
History always catches up with you. Always. Even if it takes 213 years.
Steve
06-16-2003, 10:29 AM
I heard about this last winter (summer in OZ) and would have thought by now the hearings were over and done with?
melpomene
06-16-2003, 11:01 AM
The hearings are over, but the money for upgrading facilities on the island are drying up. Hence, another mutiny. rofl 213 years later, Christian Fletcher's descendants are still at war with the pesky British establishment.
ethics
06-16-2003, 08:29 PM
Hehe, I saw this a while back and contemplated on posting it here. Seems like a great topic so thanks for posting it. :)
As for the issue itself, for some reason I never felt good about the whole mutiny.
melpomene
06-16-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ethics
Hehe, I saw this a while back and contemplated on posting it here. Seems like a great topic so thanks for posting it. :)
As for the issue itself, for some reason I never felt good about the whole mutiny.
I agree. It is a part of history, that 213 years later, has still not been resolved. Its fascinating.
The Pitcairnians (??) have their own form of language. All have the "Christian" surname. :eek: I would love to sneak on the island and check out the genetics of the residents. Dominant traits. And do a sociological study on how the hell they have survived for 200 years. Amazing.
But what is really amazing, is that they are still, they are still trying to screw the establishment. That is just too funny. I want to find the gene for this. The screw you gene. rofl
With only 49 on the island, that gene was probably a recessive that is now dominant ;) Hard to believe they're as healthy as they are considering the amount of inbreeding....even if you count their cousins that opted to move to Norfolk Island.
They can't be all THAT bad...
The do crunch for SETI!
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/country_305568.html
rofl
melpomene
06-17-2003, 12:05 AM
Everyone crunches SETI.
The Pitcairnians are a fiery bunch alright.
http://library.puc.edu/pitcairn/news11--2-21-00.html
how about i invite a Christian to join GA :thumbsup:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FRIENDSofPITCAIRN/
Actually, the place itself and the people are both fascinating...the current news nothwithstanding. The story, coming out of NZ should give us some pause to reconsider. While NZ is inarguably some of the most beautiful scenery on this earth, the kiwis are a tad bit to the left of dear old Karl politically. Since there are a couple of Pitcairners living in NZ, I really have to wonder at the validity of what brought these charges...since the charges are 40 years old.
I've been perusing the various news items on this, and they are unusually vague...other than to say that it involved some Pitcairn men and some girls under 14. As the Pitcairner's are of both Tahitian and English extraction and in a colony, that 40 years ago, had precious little outside influence, might we entertain the idea that from a cultural perspective the behaviour was common place...for them?
melpomene
06-17-2003, 04:36 AM
I agree Coot. But i do note, that nearly every single resident on the island is internet savvy. rofl
Robert Harris
06-17-2003, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by melpomene
...half way between New Zealand and Peru.
I hate to be too flippant, but I simply cannot resist.
Boy oh boy. That is about as good a definition as I ever have seen of"nowhere." :)
melpomene
06-18-2003, 09:31 AM
:thumbsup:
melpomene
06-23-2003, 12:05 AM
Everyone, likes a mutineer. :thumbsup: Especially an island of them - its their trademark.
John R. Beanham
06-23-2003, 12:16 AM
Funny thing about Fletcher Christian, he came from the Isle of Man, as did my wife's family.
My family history research shows some of the 'Christian' family marrying into the 'Quayle' family in the 18th and 19th centuries.
My only claim to fame!
John.
melpomene
06-24-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by John R. Beanham
Funny thing about Fletcher Christian, he came from the Isle of Man, as did my wife's family.
My family history research shows some of the 'Christian' family marrying into the 'Quayle' family in the 18th and 19th centuries.
My only claim to fame!
John.
Six degrees of separation ;)