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Steve
06-11-2003, 02:26 PM
I bought the most marvelous book, recently, and have been delighted with it.
It is "Stories and Poems for Extremely Intelligent Children of All Ages", an anthology of literature selected by Harold Bloom. The publisher is Simon and Schuster.
There is fantasy, comedy, tragedy, melancholy, triumph, and surprise. Most of the selections are from the nineteenth century. It is a book filled with selections chosen by a person who loves to read and who is eager to share that passion with others.
If you chance upon this book, or seek it out in the bookstore, take several minutes to read the Introduction. It, better than I, will give you a very good idea of Mr. Bloom's direction with the book, and will help you decide whether to buy it, or not.
I hope that you do, and enjoy it as much as I.
ethics
06-11-2003, 09:23 PM
Sounds great, although I am not a fan of poems. Tried getting in to it, but they rarely made sense and with the power of words to create an explanation or description in less time, I think they were always too sappy and stupid.
LOL! I am sure, I will get flamed for it. :)
Steve
06-11-2003, 09:58 PM
Try reading my signature block aloud. Better yet, memorize it, then close your eyes and silently and slowly recite each line to yourself.
If can see the eagle, good; if you can become the eagle, then so much the better!
bruzzes
06-12-2003, 06:58 AM
Beautiful!
bruzzes
06-12-2003, 07:13 AM
RENASCENCE
Edna St. Vincent Millay
All I could see from where I stood
Was three long mountains and a wood;
I turned and looked another way,
And saw three islands in a bay.
So with my eyes I traced the line
Of the horizon, thin and fine,
Straight around till I was come
Back to where I'd started from;
And all I saw from where I stood
Was three long mountains and a wood.
Over these things I could not see;
These were the things that bounded me;
And I could touch them with my hand,
Almost, I thought, from where I stand.
And all at once things seemed so small
My breath came short, and scarce at all.
But, sure, the sky is big, I said;
Miles and miles above my head;
So here upon my back I'll lie
And look my fill into the sky.
And so I looked, and, after all,
The sky was not so very tall.
The sky, I said, must somewhere stop,
And--sure enough!--I see the top!
The sky, I thought, is not so grand;
I 'most could touch it with my hand
And reaching up my hand to try,
I screamed to feel it touch the sky.
I screamed, and--lo!--Infinity
Came down and settled over me;
Forced back my scream into my chest,
Bent back my arm upon my breast,
And, pressing of the Undefined
The definition on my mind,
Held up before my eyes a glass
Through which my shrinking sight did pass
Until it seemed I must behold
Immensity made manifold;
Whispered to me a word whose sound
Deafened the air for worlds around,
And brought unmuffled to my ears
The gossiping of friendly spheres,
The creaking of the tented sky,
The ticking of Eternity...
The rest of this powerful poem can be found here...
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/6865/millayRENASCENCE.html
SixofNine
06-12-2003, 07:53 AM
This beer-drinking, TV-watching, sports-fan American male has a soft spot for Emily Dickinson:
WE never know how high we are
Till we are called to rise;
And then, if we are true to plan,
Our statures touch the skies.
The heroism we recite
Would be a daily thing,
Did not ourselves the cubits warp
For fear to be a king.
bruzzes
06-12-2003, 07:50 PM
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visiter," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door —
Only this, and nothing more."
Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow; — vainly I had tried to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow — sorrow for the lost Lenore —
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore —
Nameless here for evermore.
<url>http://www.geocities.com/do_not_cross/poe43.html</url>
bruzzes
06-14-2003, 10:33 PM
What?
No one has a favorite poem or short passage?
Where are the "cultured" people here?
I would really like to hear some more favorites.
Anybody?
Nobody?
Are we gonna let this thread die?
99 bottles of beer on the wall...
nevermind
Steve
06-14-2003, 10:42 PM
I tend to prefer shorter poems that evoke images or strong emotions; haiku is very nice for this. Longer, epic poems, while lyrical in nature (usually), and wonderful for reading aloud, to develop the cadence intended by the author, tend to lose me....
There are some very nice modern poets who masquerade as musicians, by the way.
Here is a poem that I like, by someone most people will not know, Aubrey de Vere:
"When I was young, I said to Sorrow,
'Come I will play with thee'--
He is near me now all day;
And at night returns to say,
'I will come again to-morrow,
I will come and stay with thee.'
Through the woods we walk together;
His soft footsteps rustle nigh me.
To shield an unregarded head,
He hath built a wintry shed;
And all night in rainy weather,
I hear his gentle breathings by me."
The single most important recommendation I can make for anyone attempting to seriously enjoy poetry is to read it aloud. Don't whisper it to yourself, don't recite it in your head. Use your full speaking voice, as if you were addressing an audience, and read it aloud.
LissaKay
06-14-2003, 11:25 PM
When I was about 14 years old, I was given a book of poetry by e. e. cummings. I read it until it was in tatters. This is the one that stood out as my favorite.
i am so glad and very
merely my fourth will cure
the laziest self of weary
the hugest sea of shore
so far your nearness reaches
a lucky fifth of you
turns people into eachs
and cowards into grow
our can'ts were born to happen
our mosts have died in more
our twentieth will open
wide a wide open door
we are so both and oneful
night cannot be so sky
sky cannot be so sunful
i am through you so i
I have had more than one person comment, "Well, the fact that this is your favorite poem explains a lot about you and your writing." I have never been able to figure out why they said that.
joseftu
06-14-2003, 11:36 PM
You asked for it!
It's tough to choose a favorite poem, or poet. It's like novels, I like whatever I'm reading at the moment. And I teach poetry every semester. But here's a few that are currently on my "playlist."
I'm going to Hawaii next week, so I've been reading a lot of Lois-Ann Yamanaka.
BOSS OF THE FOOD Lois-Ann Yamanaka
(EDIT--I copied and pasted this without realizing some asshole had removed all the "fucks!" How can you censor poetry? So I put them back in.)
Before time, everytime my sista like be the boss
of the food. We stay shopping in Mizuno Superette
and my madda pull the Oreos off the shelf
and my sista already saying, Mommy,
can be the boss of the Oreos?
The worse was when she was the boss
of the sunflower seeds.
She give me and my other sistas
one seed at a time.
We no could eat the meat.
Us had to put um in one pile on one Kleenex.
Then, when we wen' take all the meat
out of the shells and our lips stay all cho cho,
she give us the seeds one at a time
cause my sista, she the boss
of the sunflower seeds.
One time she was the boss
of the Raisinettes.
Us was riding in the back
of my granpa's Bronco down Kaunakakai Wharf.
There she was, passing us one Raisinette at a time. My mouth was all watery
'cause I like eat um all one time, eh?
So I wen' tell her, Gimme that bag.
And I wen' grab um.
She said, I'ng tell Mommy.
And I said, Go you fuckin' bird killa;
tell Mommy.
She wen' let go the bag.
And I wen' start eating the Raisinetes all one time.
But when I wen' look at her,
I felt kinda bad cause I wen' call her bird killa.
She was boss of the parakeet too, eh,
and she suppose to cover the cage every night.
But one time, she wen' forget.
When us wen' wake up, the bugga was on its back,
legs in the air all stiff.
The bugga was cold.
And I guess the thing that made me feel bad
was I neva think calling her bird killa
would make her feel so bad
that she let go the bag Raisinettes.
But I neva give her back the bag.
I figga what the fuckk.
I ain't going suffer eating one Raisinette at a time.
Then beg her for one mo
and I mean one mo
fuckin' candy.
I've also been teaching a lot of Billy Collins (the Poet Laureate of the United States...a fellow CUNY professor!!!)
Candle Hat --Billy Collins
(You can hear him read it <a href="http://www.contemporarypoetry.com/dialect/poetry/collinscandlehat.html">here</a>)
In most self-portraits it is the face that dominates:
Cezanne is a pair of eyes swimming in brushstrokes,
Van Gogh stares out of a halo of swirling darkness,
Rembrandt looks relieved as if he were taking a breather
from painting The Blinding of Sampson.
But in this one Goya stands well back from the mirror
and is seen posed in the clutter of his studio
addressing a canvas tilted back on a tall easel.
He appears to be smiling out at us as if he knew
we would be amused by the extraordinary hat on his head
which is fitted around the brim with candle holders,
a device that allowed him to work into the night.
You can only wonder what it would be like
to be wearing such a chandelier on your head
as if you were a walking dining room or concert hall.
But once you see this hat there is no need to read
any biography of Goya or to memorize his dates.
To understand Goya you only have to imagine him
lighting the candles one by one, then placing
the hat on his head, ready for a night of work.
Imagine him surprising his wife with his new invention,
the laughing like a birthday cake when she saw the glow.
Imagine him flickering through the rooms of his house
with all the shadows flying across the walls.
Imagine a lost traveler knocking on his door
one dark night in the hill country of Spain.
"Come in, " he would say, "I was just painting myself,"
as he stood in the doorway holding up the wand of a brush,
illuminated in the blaze of his famous candle hat.
And for some reason, lately, I've had a line from Sekou Sundiata's "Blink Your Eyes" running through my head--"Ride when the hard times come. Ride when they're gone." But that's one you really have to hear him perform...
Blink Your Eyes
--Sekou Sundiata
I was on my way to see my woman,
But the law said I was on my way
through a red light, red light, red light
And if you saw my woman you could understand
I was just being a man
It wasn’t about no light, it was about my ride
And if you saw my ride you could dig that too, you dig
Sunroof, stereo, radio, black leather, bucket seats sit low
You know the body’s cool but the tires are worn
Ride when the hard times come, ride when they’re gone
In other words the light was green
I could wake up in the morning without a warning
And the my world could change
Blink your eyes
All depends, all depends on the skin,
All depends on the skin we’re living in
Up to the window comes the law with his hand on his gun
"What’s up? What’s happening?" I said
I guess that's when I really broke the law
He said a routine, step out the car routine
Assume the position.
"Put your hands up in the air. You know the routine.
Like you just don’t care. License and registration."
Deep was the night and the light from the
North star and the car door. Deja vous.
We’ve been through this before. Why did you stop me?
"Somebody had to stop you. I watch the news.
You always lose. You’re unreliable.
That’s undeniable. This is serious.
You could be dangerous."
I could wake up in the morning without a warning
and my world could change
Blink your eyes
All depends, all depends on the skin,
All depends on the skin we’re living in.
New York City, they got laws
Can’t no brothers drive outdoors in certain neighborhoods
on particular streets near and around certain types of people
They got laws
All depends, all depends on the skin
All depends on the skin you’re living in.
And also, I'm not usually a big fan of the romantics (although I have a certain fondness for Wordsworth and Coleridge's <i>Lyrical Ballads</i> and come to think of it, I love the "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" so I guess I do like the romantics ;)). But the other night I had a chance to look again at Keats' "Ode on a Grecian Urn," and there's just no way to ignore the man's brilliance, and the importance of what he's saying (and I don't agree with T.S. Eliot that the last two lines ruin the poem...I think they <b>save</b> it!)
Ode on a Grecian Urn
Thou still unravish'd bride of quietness,
Thou foster-child of Silence and slow Time,
Sylvan historian, who canst thus express
A flowery tale more sweetly than our rhyme:
What leaf-fringed legend haunts about thy shape
Of deities or mortals, or of both,
In Tempe or the dales of Arcady?
What men or gods are these? What maidens loth?
What mad pursuit? What struggle to escape?
What pipes and timbrels? What wild ecstasy?
Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard
Are sweeter; therefore, ye soft pipes, play on;
Not to the sensual ear, but, more endear'd,
Pipe to the spirit ditties of no tone:
Fair youth, beneath the trees, thou canst not leave
Thy song, nor ever can those trees be bare;
Bold Lover, never, never canst thou kiss,
Though winning near the goal—yet, do not grieve;
She cannot fade, though thou hast not thy bliss,
For ever wilt thou love, and she be fair!
Ah, happy, happy boughs! that cannot shed
Your leaves, nor ever bid the Spring adieu;
And, happy melodist, unwearičd,
For ever piping songs for ever new;
More happy love! more happy, happy love!
For ever warm and still to be enjoy'd,
For ever panting, and for ever young;
All breathing human passion far above,
That leaves a heart high-sorrowful and cloy'd,
A burning forehead, and a parching tongue.
Who are these coming to the sacrifice?
To what green altar, O mysterious priest,
Lead'st thou that heifer lowing at the skies,
And all her silken flanks with garlands drest?
What little town by river or sea-shore,
Or mountain-built with peaceful citadel,
Is emptied of its folk, this pious morn?
And, little town, thy streets for evermore
Will silent be; and not a soul, to tell
Why thou art desolate, can e'er return.
O Attic shape! fair attitude! with brede
Of marble men and maidens overwrought,
With forest branches and the trodden weed;
Thou, silent form! dost tease us out of thought
As doth eternity: Cold Pastoral!
When old age shall this generation waste,
Thou shalt remain, in midst of other woe
Than ours, a friend to man, to whom thou say'st,
'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'
By the way, I hope you're all reading this poetry <b>out loud</b>! :)
joseftu
06-14-2003, 11:39 PM
Oh my God, Demi! ee cummings!
since feeling is first
who pays any attention
to the syntax of things
will never wholly kiss you;
wholly to be a fool
while Spring is in the world
my blood approves,
and kisses are a far better fate
than wisdom
lady i swear by all flowers. Don't cry
--the best gesture of my brain is less than
your eyelids' flutter which says
we are for each other: then
laugh leaning back in my arms
for life's not a paragraph
And death i think is no parenthesis
e.e. cummings
I can almost cry reading this one to my class!
Steve
06-14-2003, 11:52 PM
"I think that I shall never see
a billboard lovely as a tree;
Indeed, if the billboards don't all fall,
I shall never see a tree at all."
or,
"I've never seen a purple cow,
I hope to never see one.
But I can tell you, here and now,
I'd rather see, than be one!"
One hundred GA dollars to whomever can identify the author of those two short, humorous poems, except for you, Joe, I think you'd have an unfair advantage, sorry!
LissaKay
06-14-2003, 11:59 PM
1 - Ogden Nash ~1933
2 - Gelett Burgess ~1895
Steve
06-15-2003, 12:02 AM
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Now, tell the truth, did you use Google? ;) ('cause I would have!)
LissaKay
06-15-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Steve
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Now, tell the truth, did you use Google? ;) ('cause I would have!)
Nope! I used this (http://www.americanpoems.com/) since I was already there perusing the works of e.e. cummings
Steve
06-15-2003, 12:10 AM
;) Just as good!
joseftu
06-15-2003, 01:03 AM
Hey! There's guys here who can always answer the helicopter questions. How come I get disqualified on the poetry? ;)
(But I only knew the Ogden Nash, to be honest)
ShinyTop
06-15-2003, 02:03 AM
Nobody going to Hawaii next week is getting a break!:)
bruzzes
06-15-2003, 08:43 AM
How about your own poetry?
Here is one of mine...and yes i was influenced by e.e. cummings too.
rain streaks down
patterns
against the roof
guiding
carressing
deep, deep
into oneness
i sit transfixed
across the centuries
i roam
led by errant thoughts
i travel the mighty
crossroads of the mind
paths regular and well traveled
worn down by the masses
i gaze upon
the limitations
of well defined boundaries
with no control i walk along governed by habit
unknowingly
uncessantly
praying for direction
the deluge continues
i slip and fall
past the rainforests
into the river
the trees thin and dwindle
carried by the current
i rush past them
into the night
morning light finds me
clinging to the earth
broken and shattered
i sleep
i awake
with fire in my body
sweat and blood
oozed
from my pores
the pain is intense
and then
subsides
purged
i look
and find no body
free of burden
i lift and soar
the land below
fades and dissolves
and is no more
i alone exist
and feel the wonder
travelling in the darkness
or am i floating still
a temple
of bright magnitude
appears before me
and bekons me
to it's busom
inside
many lights and thought-forms
abound
gathered together
i feel kindred
permeating and radiating
oneness
we gaze upon
a golden door
it opens
and the "I" is stripped
and love
fills my soul
there were no words
but words were heard
we blazed in glory
and basked in love
'WE ARE ALL ONE'
i seemed to hear
'TAKE THIS MESSAGE WITH YOU'
end of lesson one
rainstreaks down
i open my eyes
one wispers to me
one
i take up my pallet
and walk
to the city
ethics
06-15-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by bruzzes
What?
No one has a favorite poem or short passage?
The notion was killed when I was kid growing up in USSR and was forced to memorize and recite--while standing in front of the entire class-- poems about Lenin and Communist party.
I was scarred for life! ;)
SixofNine
06-15-2003, 11:17 AM
Weren't you taught that Lenin wrote "The Road Less Travelled?" :)
Brian