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Steve
06-07-2003, 12:06 AM
It may help you understand the issue I raise if you first read this article (http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/06/06/black.recruits.ap/index.html) from CNN.

Many of us have argued that affirmative action is merely a form of discrimination, no matter how well-intentioned its aims may be.  I believe it is likely that the Supreme Court will hold that to be true, as well.  But let's think about moving beyond affirmative action.  The intent of affirmative action is good:  to bring minority enrollment in colleges and universities proportionate to levels approaching their representation in the general population.  How can that be done without quotas and traditional affirmative action programs?

One solution is to market aggressively to the targeted minorities.  Spend time and money on attempting to reach minority populations, attract them to the schools, and make them aware of various financial aid packages and other incentives.  Of course, as the CNN piece shows, even that does not guarantee success.  It is, however, a start.

The question I have, then, in the absence of affirmative action programs, is this:  "Are outreach and marketing efforts targeted solely toward minorities acceptable methods for increasing minority enrollment?"

There are some who may argue that, as long as the efforts are targeted only at minorities, the practice is still discriminatory.  I would disagree with that argument.  I see such efforts as positively oriented and as constituting more of an information dissemination effort.  I do not see how such selective marketing and outreach harms non-minorities, and so I think it's an acceptable approach.

Whether or not it's viable, remains to be seen.

Coot
06-07-2003, 12:20 AM
Before minority enrollment in colleges and universities will go up, it has to be an issue important to the parents of these children. I would not presume to paint any minority with a broad brush that simply says education of their children is not a priority, but I would stand behind a statement that says on a whole it is less important. To the end that such an outreach program was targeted at parents in these communities, I think it stands a much better chance of being successful and an effort I could support.

I might add that the targeting of parents would have to start when the child is in grade school. Going after junior and senior minority high school kids isn't going to cut it at this time...as the article demonstrates.

rowd
06-07-2003, 01:41 AM
Celebrate Diversity

HaYwIrE
06-23-2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by rowd
Celebrate Diversity
:thumbsup:

Coriolis
06-23-2003, 04:25 PM
Getting back on topic...

I think the concept is a good one. While I've always maintained my support for affirmative action, I admit (more so these days) there are times when it gets difficult to do so, as the programs that may have had the right intentions at the outset, have sometimes been hijacked by a vocal lobby who wish to stretch the limits beyond the original intentions, which in turn creates a backlash. At such point, few can really be expected to benefit from such a system. I still strongly support the concepts, but do see the need for a better system.

Coot's suggestion, targeting the parents, is a sound one, and IMO, probably the best shot as an alternative to the systems now in place. But there's a real problem in reaching in this population, and I wish I had more faith that it would work.

ShinyTop
06-23-2003, 04:27 PM
Can we now get a diversity based system in the NBA so that fans can enjoy a diverse team? Psst, don't give any points.

Coriolis
06-23-2003, 04:30 PM
Sure, then we'll take on the NHL.

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