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Sierra Mike
03-25-2003, 04:00 PM
I'm wondering...it might be quite de classe of me, but should I report Manulife to the BSA for using under-licensed software? ;)

SM

Fiona
03-25-2003, 04:04 PM
define Manulife, BSA and under licensed.. then I may have a clue in order to answer rofl kidding (clueless!)

Sunriser13
03-25-2003, 04:09 PM
My wild guesses: Manulife = former employer; BSA = Business Software Alliance?? (not Boy Scouts of America, that's for sure! ;) ); under-licensed software = having more copies installed on machines than have been licensed (paid for).

EDIT: Oops! Forgot to answer the original question! :haha:

My opinion, Steve, is that it's pettiness below you. Of course, I do not know what pettiness may have been foisted upon you, either!! Turnabout can indeed be fair play, after all, dependent upon circumstances...

Sierra Mike
03-25-2003, 04:21 PM
Manulife of North America is the employer who released me after building their networks and saving them hundreds of thousands of $ in lost transactions.

BSA is the Business Software Alliance. And yes, Manulie does use a lot of unlicensed/underlicensed software throughout the international enterprise, including encryption technology in Asia which isn't supposed to be exported outside of North America.

Petty? Why, yes, of course it is...but then and again, all is fair in love and war. :)

SM

Fiona
03-25-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Steve Moore
all is fair in love and war. :)

SM
a point i often disagree with...

but stick em if you need to.... underlicensing is common and I'm not sure I care... :)

Steve
03-25-2003, 04:41 PM
Point out that you have enough evidence to lodge a complaint, but that you'd rather, under contract of course, help them audit their $ystem$ to come into compliance ;)

Twingo
03-25-2003, 05:38 PM
Personally I think you're kidding yourself if you think any company DOESN'T have underlicensed software, either intentionally or just because they don't/can't check it all.

Now if you know for certain that they intentionally, knowingly use software that they haven't paid for you might want to point that out to them in a complaint much like stevent said, but if its accidently type use of software brought on my employees doing whatever they feel like with their machines or something along those lines, it wouldn't be a good idea to try to nail them for it.

All I know for sure is that burning bridges are a bad way to do things.

saber11
03-25-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by stevent
Point out that you have enough evidence to lodge a complaint, but that you'd rather, under contract of course, help them audit their $ystem$ to come into compliance ;)

That would be Blackmail.

If you report them and you even "Looked" at a PC, especially as you put it, helped them rebuild their network. Then you may open yourself up for a big fat lawsuit.

They can claim they were acting on your recomendations, and you had assured them they had enough licenses, so it's your fault.

Your word against theirs.

ShinyTop
03-25-2003, 07:25 PM
It would be unpatriotic to not report the export of encryption technology proscribed for export, n'est pas?

Misu
03-25-2003, 08:10 PM
Just stick a few mp3's on their main server and send the RIAA after 'em. That should give them a nice headache.

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